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post #406 of 857

We hear--and embrace or block out--recording warts all the time.  I hear them in my low-resolving iPod.  The only difference is that people object to them when they are told that they are listening through a "monitor".  Tell them it's a regular speaker, and they'll tell you it sounds "musical", "balanced", "warm", blah, blah, blah.  Audiophilia is the land of sonic unicorns, leprechauns and the chupacabra, you forget.

 


Edited by Mauricio - 4/8/12 at 8:21am
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Indeed - that's why I'm all about actives and don't really have a huge interest in hifi speakers (minus the Linkwitz Orions+s I'll build some day and the Linkwitz Plutos I'm building now) although to some extent that's also because I don't have a huge room and listen in the nearfield - but some speakers are more revealing than others and the Opals in particular are no holds barred in that area. The Twins by comparison are a little shyer at the bottom end and are noticeably more mid-forward, which will suit some people more.

 

Anyway, Audiolab thread....

 

Might put my order in the next 11-12 days (waiting for my card statement to carry over so I won't have to pay for it for another month)... been looking at the V800 though - as it's a European product the pricing is better relative to other DACs than it is in America, although still £200 more. Don't like the looks that much but Vioelectric appear pretty objectivist about what makes good gear. Derp. I am so indecisive.

post #408 of 857

I quite fancy the Violectric look.

post #409 of 857
I would have bought a v800, but it would cost me like $600 more than the mdac with border and broker fees
post #410 of 857

And you're on the same continent, terrible! The Anedio D2 would cost me quite a bit more than it would for an American for the same reasons, which is why it's more sensible, if less fun, to only look at things that I can buy that are sold in my own market. Also I see post 303 of this thread has a comparison between the two:

 

 

http://www.head-fi.org/t/527095/new-audiolab-dac/300#post_8175912

 

Obviously just one person's opinion though.

 

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Originally Posted by darren700 View Post

I would have bought a v800, but it would cost me like $600 more than the mdac with border and broker fees


 

post #411 of 857

Been demoing the mDAC - great detail retrieval, very impressive. Less impressed with the head amp though - wanting a little in bass extension and impact.  I'm thinking of buying one, and then adding a more impactful amp at a later date, something like a Burson.

post #412 of 857
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Originally Posted by avl06 View Post

Been demoing the mDAC - great detail retrieval, very impressive. Less impressed with the head amp though - wanting a little in bass extension and impact.  I'm thinking of buying one, and then adding a more impactful amp at a later date, something like a Burson.


Do you have any idea how many hours are on the DAC? Personally, I wasn't terribly impressed with the head amp when I first got mine, I tried it for a few tracks, then went directly back to my vintage Pioneer SX-650 receivers headphone amp which does an admirable job with the LCD-2's. After a couple of weeks I realized the DAC seemed to be sounding better than I remembered when I first got it so, on a whim, I tried the head amp again and was pleasantly surprised to find it gave the Pioneer a run for it's money. In fact I've only been using the MDAC headphone amp the past month or so.

post #413 of 857

There is absolutely nothing wanting in the M-DAC headphone amp unless you use hard to drive cans like orthos. 

post #414 of 857

Yeah it was pretty fresh out of the box though I have put at least 40 hours on it by now... Hopefully its still improving.

 

Don't get me wrong though it sounds really good, and maybe it will sound better yet. I'm definitely pulling the trigger on it.  Adding the Burson gave (to my ears) another level of rich bass, and made something like Wild Beasts Smother album "swing" in a way I really enjoyed.  

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Originally Posted by avl06 View Post

Yeah it was pretty fresh out of the box though I have put at least 40 hours on it by now... Hopefully its still improving.

 

Don't get me wrong though it sounds really good, and maybe it will sound better yet. I'm definitely pulling the trigger on it.  Adding the Burson gave (to my ears) another level of rich bass, and made something like Wild Beasts Smother album "swing" in a way I really enjoyed.  


I've not heard the Burson so I can't comment on how it fares in the grand scheme of things. I have tried a few different mid-level amps with my LCD-2's but ultimately felt the two vintage receivers I have were a step above the others. It's interesting, in all other cases I tended to prefer the warmer Harman Kardon 730 Twin Power to the Pioneer SX-650 but it's the opposite with the M-DAC.

 

In my estimation I'd say the SX-650 and the internal headphone amp of the M-DAC are in about the same league, the SX-650 is a little faster, a bit better bass articulation and a bit more effortless sounding whereas the M-DAC's own amp is a bit warmer, with a bit more depth to the sound. Maybe I'll hear something in the mid-level range that will stand out from the crowd but ultimately I think the next step up for me would be into the realm of a Beta22 or Dynahi.

 

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Originally Posted by Mauricio View Post

I quite fancy the Violectric look.

 

 

Hi Mauricio if you are thinking of ordering a V800 or something from Violectric do consider dropping me a line so that we can share shipping to Singapore. I'm thinking of ordering a V200. Cheers!

 

John

Nine 069 zero 414


Edited by Blurpapa - 4/22/12 at 8:25am
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There is absolutely nothing wanting in the M-DAC headphone amp unless you use hard to drive cans like orthos. 

 

Agreed. Even my portable RS 71B mproves on the sound by quite a margin on the LCD2s!

post #418 of 857

 

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Originally Posted by zenpunk View Post

There is absolutely nothing wanting in the M-DAC headphone amp unless you use hard to drive cans like orthos. 

 

Have you tried using another amp with them though? I tried a Burson HA 160D (which I was trialling at the same time as the mdac) and the difference was noticeable - fuller bass, more attack. Combined with the detail/transparency of the mdac, pretty close to my idea of audio nirvana.

post #419 of 857

The end results will depend on the headphones but I had a Meier Concerto, which I extensively compared to a friend's Burson H160D with various cans (Denon D2000, HD650 and Grado SR225i) and they were extremely hard to tell apart. I have since upgraded to a Little dot MKVI+ and to my surpise it  is noticeably better than the Concerto. With my JVC DX1000 the M-DAC headphone amp is very close to the  LD.


Edited by zenpunk - 4/22/12 at 11:55am
post #420 of 857

 

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Originally Posted by Blurpapa View Post

 

 

 

Hi Mauricio if you are thinking of ordering a V800 or something from Violectric do consider dropping me a line so that we can share shipping to Singapore. I'm thinking of ordering a V200. Cheers!

 

John

Nine 069 zero 414

 

I quite fancy the Violectric look, but do not quite fancy its prices.  For the same prices, I think the Audiolab M-DAC and the Burson HD-160 offer better value than the Violectric products.  Thanks for the offer, though.

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