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post #31 of 145
12/16/10 at 11:16am
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If you want to order 5000ft of wire sure:)

 

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It would be nice if it comes with clear wire.

Thank You. Drew Baird, P.E. Moon Audio 308 Chrismill Lane Holly Springs, NC 27540 919-649-5018 drew@moon-audio.com http://www.moon-audio.com
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post #32 of 145
12/16/10 at 11:17am
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Yes just specify at ordering time.

 

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Good stuff, I'll have to think about picking one up...

 

Is there any way I can get a cable with no logos?  Not a fan of them (no offense) :- /

Thank You. Drew Baird, P.E. Moon Audio 308 Chrismill Lane Holly Springs, NC 27540 919-649-5018 drew@moon-audio.com http://www.moon-audio.com
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post #33 of 145
12/16/10 at 11:18am
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Yes this is a pure silver cable. Please read the first post.

 

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SR71B  Plug with  64 inches  please.

Another question, Will you make a  IEM Cable with pure sliver Only.?

Coz the copper wire has too much bass with my Jh16 pro.

Thank You. Drew Baird, P.E. Moon Audio 308 Chrismill Lane Holly Springs, NC 27540 919-649-5018 drew@moon-audio.com http://www.moon-audio.com
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post #34 of 145
12/16/10 at 4:49pm


 

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Yes this is a pure silver cable. Please read the first post.

 

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SR71B  Plug with  64 inches  please.

Another question, Will you make a  IEM Cable with pure sliver Only.?

Coz the copper wire has too much bass with my Jh16 pro.


 

Isn't it a stranded 26AWG silver plated copper for ground?
 

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post #35 of 145
12/18/10 at 4:08pm

Hello - Add me to the list for a 48" length, terminated with a RSA SR71B plug and UE Reference IEMs. -thanks

 

 

 

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post #36 of 145
12/20/10 at 6:46am
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Yes it is UP-OCC silver over UP-OCC copper ground. The positive conductor is UP-OCC silver .

The copper was used on the ground for added strength and durability to protect from flex failure.
 

 

Isn't it a stranded 26AWG silver plated copper for ground?
 

Thank You. Drew Baird, P.E. Moon Audio 308 Chrismill Lane Holly Springs, NC 27540 919-649-5018 drew@moon-audio.com http://www.moon-audio.com
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post #37 of 145
12/20/10 at 8:52am

I have tried making my own DIY cables with silver for positive and spc for ground.  It doesn't sound as good compared to the one with silver for both positive and ground, although it's cheaper.

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Yes it is UP-OCC silver over UP-OCC copper ground. The positive conductor is UP-OCC silver .

The copper was used on the ground for added strength and durability to protect from flex failure.
 

 

Isn't it a stranded 26AWG silver plated copper for ground?
 


 
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post #38 of 145
12/21/10 at 4:45am

Possible use for TF10's?

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post #39 of 145
12/21/10 at 3:33pm
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With the design of any cable there are always compromises. We built this cable in both UP-OCC silver over UP-OCC copper vs UP-OCC silver ground and could not hear a difference. Thus we went with the design that would provide more strength in an abusive environment. All cable geometries are different and sound different. And thus your experience with your DIY cable can not be generalized for all conditions.  and     ouihdbcouhabsdcoashbdciuashbdcauisbhdc

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I have tried making my own DIY cables with silver for positive and spc for ground.  It doesn't sound as good compared to the one with silver for both positive and ground, although it's cheaper.

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Yes it is UP-OCC silver over UP-OCC copper ground. The positive conductor is UP-OCC silver .

The copper was used on the ground for added strength and durability to protect from flex failure.
 

 

Isn't it a stranded 26AWG silver plated copper for ground?
 


 

 
Thank You. Drew Baird, P.E. Moon Audio 308 Chrismill Lane Holly Springs, NC 27540 919-649-5018 drew@moon-audio.com http://www.moon-audio.com
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post #40 of 145
12/21/10 at 3:34pm
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Possible use for TF10's?


Not at this point as it will require us to make another mold. Hopefully in the future.
 


Edited by drubrew - 12/28/10 at 6:30pm
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post #41 of 145
12/21/10 at 5:02pm

I don't understand how it doesn't have any changes in the sound though.  If it doesn't matter, why don't you use spc for both positive and ground?  The design of a cable is important of course, but the ground wire is still matter.
 

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With the design of any cable there are always compromises. We built this cable in both UP-OCC silver over UP-OCC copper vs UP-OCC silver ground and could not hear a difference. Thus we went with the design that would provide more strength in an abusive environment. All cable geometries are different and sound different. And thus your experience with your DIY cable can not be generalized for all conditions.  and     ouihdbcouhabsdcoashbdciuashbdcauisbhdc

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I have tried making my own DIY cables with silver for positive and spc for ground.  It doesn't sound as good compared to the one with silver for both positive and ground, although it's cheaper.

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Originally Posted by drubrew View Post


Yes it is UP-OCC silver over UP-OCC copper ground. The positive conductor is UP-OCC silver .

The copper was used on the ground for added strength and durability to protect from flex failure.
 

 

Isn't it a stranded 26AWG silver plated copper for ground?
 


 

 

 
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post #42 of 145
12/21/10 at 7:33pm
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I don't understand how it doesn't have any changes in the sound though.  If it doesn't matter, why don't you use spc for both positive and ground?  The design of a cable is important of course, but the ground wire is still matter.
 

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Originally Posted by drubrew View Post

With the design of any cable there are always compromises. We built this cable in both UP-OCC silver over UP-OCC copper vs UP-OCC silver ground and could not hear a difference. Thus we went with the design that would provide more strength in an abusive environment. All cable geometries are different and sound different. And thus your experience with your DIY cable can not be generalized for all conditions.


 


He already said they used copper to make it more durable - where did you see that it "doesn't matter"? Since IEM cables will more often be used on the road I think they made the right choice making it durable. They mentioned very clearly it is the baby brother to the headphone Silver Dragons and built it with focus on flexibility and weight.  

 

Also, could you share your cable geometry and silver purity? The solder used and method used for construction? I think all those matter too. 

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post #43 of 145
12/21/10 at 8:31pm

Drew said that he cannot find a difference in terms of 'sound quality', which is what I mean 'it doesn't matter'.  All I am trying to say is that the ground wire also affects the sound quality. 

 

Anyway, IEM cable like TWag OM doesn't have any issues on durability, so I don't think that's the main reason of using SPC for ground.  

 

The solder that I used for my cable is Mundorf supreme silver/gold, and the wires are Neotech UPOCC Silver 7N.  The cable geometry is similar to the Neotech NEI-1001.  It sounds very close to NEI-1001 and cost a lot cheaper.  Of course, it doesn't look as good.  

 

That is just my experience.  If anyone of you think that using silver plated copper for ground doesn't have any difference in terms of sound quality, then go for it!

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post #44 of 145
12/21/10 at 8:41pm

i think candy has a valid point. i have read a few times on this forum that that isnt a very good sounding cable composition when compared to jus copper or jus silver. 

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post #45 of 145
12/21/10 at 9:37pm
@CandyL - thanks for your thoughts and observations. I've got cables coming from Whiplash, ALO & Moon w different compositions. Will update on my observations. They might end up being the same as yours. smily_headphones1.gif

@debitsohn - have you heard the differences personally? I'm just curious since you seem to have adequate gear to warrant hearing differences in e cable. smily_headphones1.gif
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