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post #31 of 38

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Originally Posted by mrdi0 View Post

I admit I don't have any "first-hand" opinion on the Cowon J3, since I haven't saved the money to buy one yet, so I base my opinions on reviews I have read here and there, they all agree it is a great piece of equipment, but there are some complains on navigation in the interface.

I really like the Itouch UI, but I don't like many other things on it that, in my mind, make it not worth the buy.

If you tell me that the J3 interface is very good (and with a capacitive touch screen, I am truly happy to know that), you only make my desire to buy it stronger. I'm not sure I should thank you for that, my wallet is already crying and bleeding, ehehe! :p

 

I have also read that the touchscreen is not as precise and smooth as the Itouch one (although described as very good), can you pleas confirm or deny this?

 

This J3 really made me fall in love when I first saw it, so I am trying to collect as many infos as possible!



The only iTouch I have experience with is the 1st-gen one and the touchscreen was indeed very good. However, much functionality was missing from the overall experience compared even to my aging fuze. I kept wanting to delete a file or check file format/bitrate only to remember that I'd need a PC and itunes to do that with the iTouch. The J3 may not have the best touchscreen but at least all of the functionality is there. Perhaps the J3's Capacitative touchscreen doesn't seem bad to me because it is a huge improvement over the S:Flo2 and even the D2+ I had a while ago (obviously haven't compared it directly to the iTouch since the J3 was years away from even being announced back then) but I really have no complaints at all about smoothness or precision. Plus there are hardware controls which I use much more often than the touchscreen - that's one thing Cowon gets right every time. I still think it's a bit overpriced at $300 for the 32gb for a player with no wifi and the battery life is not nearly as impressive as with my old D2+ but overall it's a solid device.

 

Also, I don't think a whole lot of people realize it (never seen it mentioned in a J3 review) but the main menu is fairly customizable. I don't use most of the J3's features on a regular basis so having the ability to move them all off the menu and replace them with a clock and calendar was a nice surprise.

post #32 of 38

1+ for the iPod Touch. 

 

I mean, if you are already getting a large screen PMP in the same price range, why would you get anything else? 

 

In my opinion even the soundquality difference is not enough to justify choosing J3 over IPT4. You can use the touch as a secondary screen for checking email and calendar events. Functions as a high end graphing calculator, unit converter, weather checker. You can check stocks, news, and browse forums like head-fi. Facebook, twitter, skype on the go. When watching netflix on your PS3 or computer or TV, you can shut it off, grab the touch, and resume playback on there. Unlimited free music and music discoveries with Pandora. And I haven't even begun to mention utility apps like English-spanish translators, workout managers. There is even a burn-in app that lets you make different profiles for each pair of headphones you have, and set target times, white/pink noise, etc etc. Oh, and games. All can be had for free.

 

And lastly, the new Retina display is leagues beyond anything out in the market right now. It beats any AMOLED and Super AMOLED. Youtube, netflix, and your own videos will look SO MUCH better. 

 

So, if you take ALL THAT into account, there is no contest between the J3 and IPT4. These extra functionalities are easily worth an extra $200 on top of the retail price. And if you don't like the SQ, get a portable amp and an LOD. Fiio L3 + E5 costs about 30 bucks. 

post #33 of 38

Theoretically you should be able to configure Rockbox's settings to scroll at a desirable speed and whatnot, so scrolling through a lot of stuff shouldn't be an issue. With my current theme it displays 6 artist names at a time on screen as I browse my library, which IMO is plenty. Though I suppose I can understand why you might feel differently. I personally like the screen very much (great contrast) and it has pretty good battery life, so I'm content with it.cool.gif


 

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Originally Posted by Yggdrassilious View Post

1+ for the iPod Touch. 

 

I mean, if you are already getting a large screen PMP in the same price range, why would you get anything else? 

 

In my opinion even the soundquality difference is not enough to justify choosing J3 over IPT4. You can use the touch as a secondary screen for checking email and calendar events. Functions as a high end graphing calculator, unit converter, weather checker. You can check stocks, news, and browse forums like head-fi. Facebook, twitter, skype on the go. When watching netflix on your PS3 or computer or TV, you can shut it off, grab the touch, and resume playback on there. Unlimited free music and music discoveries with Pandora. And I haven't even begun to mention utility apps like English-spanish translators, workout managers. There is even a burn-in app that lets you make different profiles for each pair of headphones you have, and set target times, white/pink noise, etc etc. Oh, and games. All can be had for free.

 

And lastly, the new Retina display is leagues beyond anything out in the market right now. It beats any AMOLED and Super AMOLED. Youtube, netflix, and your own videos will look SO MUCH better. 

 

So, if you take ALL THAT into account, there is no contest between the J3 and IPT4. These extra functionalities are easily worth an extra $200 on top of the retail price. And if you don't like the SQ, get a portable amp and an LOD. Fiio L3 + E5 costs about 30 bucks. 



I spend enough time doing stupid **** like checking Facebook, watching YouTube videos and posting in forums on my computer at home, why do it out of the house too? rolleyes.gif I don't know if the OP feels similarly or not, but the only distraction I want at my fingertips on-the-go is music. I managed to survive my whole life up until now without a scientific calculator and English-Spanish translator in my pocket, and I think I can live without it a bit longer.


Edited by Oggranak - 12/6/10 at 9:27am
post #34 of 38
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Originally Posted by Yggdrassilious View Post

1+ for the iPod Touch. 

 

I mean, if you are already getting a large screen PMP in the same price range, why would you get anything else? 

 

In my opinion even the soundquality difference is not enough to justify choosing J3 over IPT4. You can use the touch as a secondary screen for checking email and calendar events. Functions as a high end graphing calculator, unit converter, weather checker. You can check stocks, news, and browse forums like head-fi. Facebook, twitter, skype on the go. When watching netflix on your PS3 or computer or TV, you can shut it off, grab the touch, and resume playback on there. Unlimited free music and music discoveries with Pandora. And I haven't even begun to mention utility apps like English-spanish translators, workout managers. There is even a burn-in app that lets you make different profiles for each pair of headphones you have, and set target times, white/pink noise, etc etc. Oh, and games. All can be had for free.

 

And lastly, the new Retina display is leagues beyond anything out in the market right now. It beats any AMOLED and Super AMOLED. Youtube, netflix, and your own videos will look SO MUCH better. 

 

So, if you take ALL THAT into account, there is no contest between the J3 and IPT4. These extra functionalities are easily worth an extra $200 on top of the retail price. And if you don't like the SQ, get a portable amp and an LOD. Fiio L3 + E5 costs about 30 bucks. 



Disagree the IPT4 is not leagues better I would suggest S9 or J3 any day. I have the 3gs and a friend has the IPT4 period as a mp3 player I would go with Cowon or Sansa. For a phone nothing can beat a Iphone for me Htc sucks Iphone on the other hand doesn't

 

Phone= IP4

Player=Cowon J3/clip or sansa

 

Note there is nothing not portable about ethier of the Cowons mentioned Sansa clip is just small as hell, therefore being ultra-portable. Kinda like carrying a baby mouse vs a full grown one not much difference but you can tell. 

post #35 of 38

Yeah, the Iphone4, that things that, if used as a Media Player and a phone, drains the battery charged in the morning to be dead by 10pm, after a day of normal use? At least, that is my experience with it, my best friend has it, we often travel together. It's absolutely great, but the battery simply keeps dying on him, it doesn't last 20 hours, by the end of the day he has to borrow my $50 crappy cellphone if he needs to make a phonecall.

Unless you tell me that he has a lemon, to me it's a no-thanks. The Media Player cannot drain the battery of my phone, because I could find myself in need to make a phonecall in the night, while I'm travelling, and guess what: oops, battery's dead because I was listening to the Motorhead and Def Leppard for the whole day. frown.gif

Plus, if the IPTouch or the IP4 don't support FLAC, to me they are pretty much useless as players too, those are 50% of my library, and for sure I am not going to rip them again.

Also, if I can avoid the pain of something like Itune, when I can just drag&drop my stuff, it makes my life easier, having to use many different PCs and not all of them have Itunes; add that to the MicroSD slot you can find in the Cowon, the cheaper price for a even slightly better sound quality, there is no match to me. As a phone and versatile °do-a-little-of-everything" device, the Iphone4 is unbeatable, but as a pure media player the J3 is no match.

I regret not having at least a wifi, that would be so convenient, but it's not a matter of life and death, I already spend too much time wasting time on Internet, sound quality is top priority to me.

The lack of Wifi, tho, is why I am still waiting to buy it, because I think a decent price tag would be around $250 instead of $270 that you can find now.

As soon as it goes to 250 bucks, it's an automatic purchase for me.

post #36 of 38
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Originally Posted by mrdi0 View Post

Yeah, the Iphone4, that things that, if used as a Media Player and a phone, drains the battery charged in the morning to be dead by 10pm, after a day of normal use? At least, that is my experience with it, my best friend has it, we often travel together. It's absolutely great, but the battery simply keeps dying on him, it doesn't last 20 hours, by the end of the day he has to borrow my $50 crappy cellphone if he needs to make a phonecall.

Unless you tell me that he has a lemon, to me it's a no-thanks. The Media Player cannot drain the battery of my phone, because I could find myself in need to make a phonecall in the night, while I'm travelling, and guess what: oops, battery's dead because I was listening to the Motorhead and Def Leppard for the whole day. frown.gif

Plus, if the IPTouch or the IP4 don't support FLAC, to me they are pretty much useless as players too, those are 50% of my library, and for sure I am not going to rip them again.

Also, if I can avoid the pain of something like Itune, when I can just drag&drop my stuff, it makes my life easier, having to use many different PCs and not all of them have Itunes; add that to the MicroSD slot you can find in the Cowon, the cheaper price for a even slightly better sound quality, there is no match to me. As a phone and versatile °do-a-little-of-everything" device, the Iphone4 is unbeatable, but as a pure media player the J3 is no match.

I regret not having at least a wifi, that would be so convenient, but it's not a matter of life and death, I already spend too much time wasting time on Internet, sound quality is top priority to me.

The lack of Wifi, tho, is why I am still waiting to buy it, because I think a decent price tag would be around $250 instead of $270 that you can find now.

As soon as it goes to 250 bucks, it's an automatic purchase for me.



I get what you were trying to say........didn't quite make it though..

post #37 of 38

LOL, sorry, English is not my first language. :)

I basically agree with you, the Iphone 4 is the best phone and general device overall, but if I need a specialized Portable Media Player, my idea is that the J3 is better, on the ground of what I tried to explain.

 

I hope it's clear now, I know I sometimes make confusion. :)


Edited by mrdi0 - 12/6/10 at 3:22pm
post #38 of 38
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LOL, sorry, English is not my first language. :)

I basically agree with you, the Iphone 4 is the best phone and general device overall, but if I need a specialized Portable Media Player, my idea is that the J3 is better, for what I tried to explain.

 

I hope it's clear now, I know I sometimes make confusion. :)


No prob man you speak English rather well I doubt I could speak whatever you speak as well. Congrats...

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