Orchestra + Rock?

I don't know how else to explain it,

I'm looking for songs similar to Rammstein's "Mein Herz Brennt" and "Ohne Dich".

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pmm2giqiLkw 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9pkLDEEs20U

To try and give you an example of the "sound":

-Lord of the Rings/movie orchestra score

-the deep guitar distortion of an expensive tube amplifier setup

-nice wooden drum kit with deep bass drum and nice "bright" cymbals

-the lyrics of a story (whether it's love or death, anything really, doesn't matter)

I've tried listening to some of the symphonic metal but I just can't deal with the Opera singers (I know, Till Lindemann does this and emphasizes/rolls his "R's") but i have yet to find an Opera-like singer that can co-exist with the instruments...

*The sound is more "Ohne Dich" since it doesn't have some of those Opera-esque chords like in "Mein Herz Brennt" (chords are at 00:58-1:20, 2:07-2:19, 3:05-3:28, 4:14-End)

Hmm, the video you sent had audio, but there were no "rock" guitars/drums, just movie soundtrack/orchestral instruments... Looking into this stuff deeper, thanks for the suggestion =)

So, from listening to this song:

00:00-2:00 is pretty good (not really a fan of the "choir" in the background in THIS song)

2:00-4:16 instrumentals are great, however I'm not a fan of her voice or the lyrics, unfortunately...

4:16-5:52 the violin and the orchestra with her vocals/timbre matching with the instruments here is good (her "lighter voice", really beautiful actually =)

5:52-6:19 still pretty good (not a fan of the background "opera" vocals)

6:19-7:12 instruments are good, though not a fan of her lyrics

7:12-end Instruments are pretty good, though still Opera feel

Great recommendation, it's very "interesting" to say the least. Unfortunately I'm just not a fan of her Opera like voice and her singing when she's almost talking in the song or when she's got that "deeper" tone (but when she matches her voice/timbre matches with her "lighter" voice, that's pretty neat-like the Charlotte Chruch style)

Hope this makes sense =)
 

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Originally Posted by desktophifi 

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Originally Posted by xslimmiejimmiex 

Hmm, the video you sent had audio, but there were no "rock" guitars/drums, just movie soundtrack/orchestral instruments... Looking into this stuff deeper, thanks for the suggestion =)

Do you like nightwish songs? 

Check this one:

 

Epic!!!

Thanks for being willing to help =)

That Lord of the Rings song was good, just not a fan of her "deeper" voice and when she's singing like telling a story... Also, the lyrics weren't really "right" for me. However, the "lighter" /Charlotte Church is great though: that blends well. Thanks for the suggestion/link! =)Quote:

Originally Posted by Angelbelow 

Which symphonic metal bands did you check out and not like? Ill see if i can recommend some after I hear the songs and get more information.

 

This is always a great one
 

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Originally Posted by acidbasement 

Try Therion - Gothic Kabbalah.  My favourite album of the 00s.

-Listened to the song "Gothic Kabbalah" - This is like Metallica Opera (instruments-wise/chord progressions/etc.). Not a fan of lyrics or that Opera voice...

-The song "Perennial Sophia" was pretty neat, actually. That woman voice is beautiful, I could enjoy that. Not a fan of his James Hetfield/'Opera'tic voice here (1:03-1:33 and in his other parts in the song). The lyrics I don't mind because the female vocals/instrumentation is great.

Thanks though!

Thanks for all the suggestions everyone! I hope my "criticisms" may have helped honed in on what I like. I'm eager to hear what you all have to recommend know that you know how "picky" I am. =)

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Originally Posted by GeorgeGoodman 

X2. I love the Nightwish album and some of the other artists you mentioned (Within Temptation is incredible.) I would add Lacuna Coil, as the Shallow Life is a great album. The opera singers take it to another level.

Lacuna Coil's "Enjoy the Silence" (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lx58hXh4pVA) = I first thought I was listening to a "Rock" band (Evanescence), but then I heard Orchestral strings in the background. I like these female vocals here, not TOO Operatic. Catchy, I'll investigate them further =)

Oh, Shallow Life album? Listened to the title track (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yro4Hn5MVXs). Wow, pretty neat connection between instrumentals/vocals here. The Orchestra is "lighter" in this band (so far, after listening to just 2 songs) = compared to the other recommended songs the others mentioned. However, there are no guitars/distortion... But good recommendation. Lacuna Coil seems interesting now, Thank You.

WHOOPS - I just realized I made a bunch of new posts; I should've added all these quotes and responses into one, sorry forum admin! Hope the cost of your bandwidth/space doesn't goes up... Dammit.