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Hey everyone,

 

I am new to this site, but, I have been lurking on it for the past couple of months. My first purchase into the world of high fidelity headphones is near, and I need a bit of help. I grew up around hifi equipment (specifically Sennheiser and Denon) but I have yet to make my own purchase. I listen to a lot of electronic, with a huge emphasis on trance music. Also, I love classic rock and jazz.

 

I have $101 in credit on Amazon.com and I have a few options I wanted to run past you guys.

 

1) Grado: I have never owned a pair, but the description of their sound (warmth) seems fitting to my musical tastes.

 

2) Sennheiser: having some experience, I know about the generally "wide open" soundstage associated with Sennheiser.

 

 

So, if I go Grado, is it better to spend around 100 bucks plus the credit for the 225i? I have been reading a bunch of headfiers who say the 225i is a great balance of performance and price from Grado.

 

For sennheiser, would you recommend the HD555 or HD595 cans (or any others)? I will be getting an amp (desktop, not portable) in a few months, assuming I can afford it since I am a student.

 

I want a pair that I can use primarily at home for lossless audio listening (I rip in WAV on my "music" desktop) as well as the occasional jot to class.

 

Thank you guys so much.

post #2 of 37

Grados sound more tinny to me, not warm. Very treble centric, more metallic sounding than anything. I do appreciate the sound of high end Senns, but for $200, I think a Beyerdynamic DT880 or 990's sound better, especially considering the bass needs of electronic and trance music, and are more comfortable.

post #3 of 37

I don't think Grados are very warm either.  I listen to a LOT of trance, my favourite phones for it are the Beyer DT880's (but they definitely need an amp, you may not be impressed without the amp, so that's another few months waiting for you).

post #4 of 37
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I don't think Grados are very warm either.  I listen to a LOT of trance, my favourite phones for it are the Beyer DT880's (but they definitely need an amp, you may not be impressed without the amp, so that's another few months waiting for you).



I see, I apologize if I was wrong about Grado, I have been reading and learning so much about this hobby lately basshead.gif

 

How much do these DT880's typically cost?

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I want a pair that I can use primarily at home for lossless audio listening (I rip in WAV on my "music" desktop) as well as the occasional jot to class.

 

 


If that is 'jog to class' forget about the Grados - they feel like they are falling off my head when I'm just sitting around.

 

I've got a pair of Beyer DT990-250 ohm - very comfortable and sound good. IMO, Acceptable sound just plugged into the computer, better with separate DAC and amp.

John

 

post #6 of 37

Grado SR225 do sound great (even upgraded to RS-1), but after I purchased Sennheiser HD600 I stopped listening to the Grados almost completely.  I find that the Senns are warm, versatile and spacious and they make the Grados sound excessively bright, fatiguing and lacking in soundstage.  Be careful to not use a warm amp/dac -i.e. avoid nos- with the Senns or they will sound too warm and lose definition


Edited by eucariote - 11/28/10 at 8:05pm
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Grado SR225 do sound great (even upgraded to RS-1), but after I purchased Sennheiser HD600 I stopped listening to the Grados almost completely.  I find the the Senns are warm, versatile and spacious and they make the Grados sound excessively bright, fatiguing and lacking in soundstage.  Be careful to not use a warm amp/dac -i.e. avoid nos- or the Senns will sound too warm and lose definition



I have heard incredible things about Sennheiser comfort. How do the Grados fare in the comfort category with those bowl pads?

post #8 of 37

^ I don't mind the bowl pads, but the Senns are over-ear and much more comfortable.  They also clamp much better on me head in case you want to move/look around.  Don't wear either outside tho, the ambient noise will pour in.

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^ I don't mind the bowl pads, but the Senns are over-ear and much more comfortable.  They also clamp much better on me head in case you want to move/look around.  Don't wear either outside tho, the ambient noise will pour in.



That's what I've heard.

 

Do you think Senn is better than Beyer for the type of music I listen to? They both sound interesting. It sort of seems like I should wait on Grado until I have a bit more disposable income to spend on trying new sounds that I am unaccustomed to.

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^ I don't mind the bowl pads, but the Senns are over-ear and much more comfortable.  They also clamp much better on me head in case you want to move/look around.  Don't wear either outside tho, the ambient noise will pour in.



That's what I've heard.

 

Do you think Senn is better than Beyer for the type of music I listen to? They both sound interesting. It sort of seems like I should wait on Grado until I have a bit more disposable income to spend on trying new sounds that I am unaccustomed to.


If I were you I would go with the 595. I THINK (not positive) it is much more sensitive than the Beyer ... others back me up here? So you won't need a desktop amp, although certainly would benefit from one. I got about a 5 minute audition with one and thought it sounded good overall. It was a bit like a Grado with a nice forward midrange. The DT-880 also has very strident treble. Some are more sensitive than others about this, but I thought the treble emphasis was harsh and unrealistic.

post #11 of 37
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Thanks for all of the help so far.I just had an idea I wanted to run by. What if I went with the Senn HD555 and used the extra 70-80 saved on Amazon toward an amp? Would that be a pretty good initial setup for me? smily_headphones1.gif

 

 

 

 

 

 

post #12 of 37

Senn 555 + cheapy amp vs. Grado 225i?

 

Grado for sure.   I don't like the 555 at all.

 

post #13 of 37
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Senn 555 + cheapy amp vs. Grado 225i?

 

Grado for sure.   I don't like the 555 at all.

 



What don't you like about it?

post #14 of 37

555 is very boring to me.  I just A/B it with my 225 with some AC/DC and http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nTw1ScEcHbY  and reconfirm that the hd555 is one boring can... I didn't feel the music at all where the grado is aggressive, make you want to move with the rhythm.

 

Plus, I am sure I am somewhat influenced by the aesthetic of the 555.  Boring design, plastic construction... You put on a grado, it feels different.

 

post #15 of 37
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The aesthetic coupled with all the praise is what initially drew me to Grado. I just want cans that sweep you away to a fantastic electronic WAV track. Since you have experience with Grado, would you say the jump from the 80i to 225i is well worth the investment unamped?

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