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WHAT ARE THE BEST CANS FOR BASS? (in rap songs used just with my ipod)

post #1 of 31
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these will be my first pair of cans and i want them to have great bass if that means losing some on mids and highs im fine with that and im looking to not spend much more that 200 please help with any opinions at all
post #2 of 31

Something bassy? How about the DT770 Pro 80Ohm as it has massive bass with nice mids and smoother treble. Another alternative would be the Denon AH-D2000. It's thin on the mids with more pronounced treble and bass though it may be more than $200.

post #3 of 31
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ive been lookin at the sony xb700s anything on those?
post #4 of 31

I don't know much about them but the general verdict is that they are good. I've been interested in them recently as well so I might [ick a set up. 

 

Also another headphone to try would be the Shure SRH-840. I have a set and they have great bass.

post #5 of 31
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Originally Posted by rapaddict View Post

ive been lookin at the sony xb700s anything on those?

 

XB500 is even bassier if you're looking for big bass, I also personally think XB500 sounds better when bass put aside but that may just be a personal preference (however I'm not alone about it but some also prefer XB700 so it's matter of preference how you think it should sound like). For an iPod I'd rather get XB500 as it's probably the easiest driven bassy headphone while XB700 sorta needs an amp to get optimal sound out of it, you might get good enough volume but bass is quite a bit loose and lacks punch. Anyway the difference is XB500 also got more upper bass that cause punch/impact and it's a lot more warm/fun sounding overall and highs are smoother, on XB700 it's a lot more bright by default (EQing can change things ofc). XB500 got really good bass that fits really great for rap if that's the biggest priority and sound isn't bad at all (mids are very good for the price but it needs some EQing for best result, 125 - 500Hz is too much boosted making it sound perhaps too smooth by default) and I personally sold even DT770 Pro/80 and ATH-M50 that are like 2x - 3x expensier and highly regarded headphones for bass too so XB series got potential for the low price. UnEQd a $50 price is probably fair for XB500 but with EQing taking into account we're talking sound quality in the 150~$200 range.

 

Other options would be Denon D1100 and Shure 750DJs but XB500 definitely got the best bang-for-buck for what you're looking for IMO as the bass is just amazing on them, it's big but it's really great sounding. :) iPod definitely wouldn't be able to drive the DT770 with great results IMO if it didn't either do it straight from my computer sound card Audigy 2 ZS without using amp (bass wasn't that strong and it was VERY loose/boomy and lacked punch) and overall sound wasn't good for the price IMO. ATH-M50 has good overall sound but highs can be a bit on the border to becoming harsh and also the bass is quite weak compared to the other bassmonsters mentioned here.


Edited by RPGWiZaRD - 11/28/10 at 5:25pm
post #6 of 31

The Vmoda CrossFades, Yeah They Probly way over priced, But i bought mine for 150 at Amazon. interesting headphone. SImilar to the Sonys, But the highs are some what Veiled, But its surprising balanced. Other than the HUDGE bass.

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The Vmoda CrossFades, Yeah They Probly way over priced, But i bought mine for 150 at Amazon. interesting headphone. SImilar to the Sonys, But the highs are some what Veiled, But its surprising balanced. Other than the HUDGE bass.


Heh didn't know about those, those look idd like some direct competitors vs the Sonys in specs and design and targeted at same crowd. They seem to have the same "bass-reflex" outputs on the backside too unless it's part of the decoration but it looks more like 3 v-shaped holes. Have you heard XB500 or 700 and know exactly how they compare like?

 

EDIT: It's idd 3 holes on the back so they will probably leak the same amount of noise as the Sonys. You know the headphones packs serious amount of bass when they implement bass-reflex ports on them. :p


Edited by RPGWiZaRD - 11/28/10 at 5:47pm
post #8 of 31
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so do u think the 700s would be hard to power with just an ipod? and is there a big difference between the bass of the 500 and the 700? cuz im thinking the 700 will be more comfy cuz they go more around your ear so i would like to know if the sq is so much better in the 500 that it is worth sacrificing comfort
post #9 of 31
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Originally Posted by rapaddict View Post

so do u think the 700s would be hard to power with just an ipod? and is there a big difference between the bass of the 500 and the 700? cuz im thinking the 700 will be more comfy cuz they go more around your ear so i would like to know if the sq is so much better in the 500 that it is worth sacrificing comfort


I think they both are similar in comfort, the pads are so soft it doesn't matter if not exactly the hole ear fits inside or not and besides XB500 is a lot more lighter and smaller which IMO makes them even perhaps slightly more comfortable to wear in the long run (you won't feel them on your head after a while of use). For me the bottom of the ear (don't know what it's called in english, the softest part of the ear anyway) is not quite fitting inside but I got really big ears too and it still feels quite the same regardless compared to wearing the XB700 due to the soft pads. 

 

I wouldn't have been satisfied with my XB700 out of my mp3 player at least without using an amp as the bass would be too soft and lack of impact and still with an amp I had taken XB500 over it anyday cuz I prefer the more warm/forward and fun sound and the somewhat smoother highs.


Edited by RPGWiZaRD - 11/28/10 at 6:03pm
post #10 of 31

I can not imagine myself listening to dubstep without my DT770s 80ohm. They work out real nicely without an amp but to get the most out of them you would need to amplify them.

post #11 of 31
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I think they both are similar in comfort, the pads are so soft it doesn't matter if not exactly the hole ear fits inside or not and besides XB500 is a lot more lighter and smaller which IMO makes them even perhaps slightly more comfortable to wear in the long run (you won't feel them on your head after a while of use). For me the bottom of the ear (don't know what it's called in english, the softest part of the ear anyway) is not quite fitting inside but I got really big ears too and it still feels quite the same regardless compared to wearing the XB700 due to the soft pads. 

 

I wouldn't have been satisfied with my XB700 out of my mp3 player at least without using an amp as the bass would be too soft and lack of impact and still with an amp I had taken XB500 over it anyday cuz I prefer the more warm/forward and fun sound and the somewhat smoother highs.






so i dont kno how u did it (because i was really leaning to the 700s) but i will probably get the 500s thanks for the help and sorry im still a little unsure so if anyone has an opinion of the 500s or 700s please still tell bcuz i kno that sq is judged much differently between different ppl
post #12 of 31

XB500 FTW...

 

With some good burn-in time, they will satisfy your bass craving. Granted, I think RPG and I are still looking for something to possibly "surpass" the XB500 darthsmile.gif

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XB500 FTW...

 

With some good burn-in time, they will satisfy your bass craving. Granted, I think RPG and I are still looking for something to possibly "surpass" the XB500 darthsmile.gif


Yea but I'm honestly starting to think XB500 is the most suitable headphone for me, it wipes the floor with my other 50€ bassy headphones, Sennheiser HD212 Pro which got SEVERELY recessed mids and the highs are bright and thin and lacks detail and mids sounds "grainy" and AKG K 518 DJs which simply doesn't reveal as much fine details in the mids (vocals especially) and soundstage is a lot more narrow. XB series is kind of in-between a typical open vs closed due to the openings at back (mostly for bass) and the big airchamber it creates due to the think pads between the ear and the driver severely helps to make it a lot more airy sounding and XB500 can very well compete with headphones like ATH-M50 and DT770 in sound quality after some EQing to take away the excess 125 - 500Hz boost which makes it slightly too smooth sounding and the highs needs a slight boost as they are somewhat veiled by default but both burn-in and EQing will change these headphone a lot for the better (clearer sound) while still remaining warm and fun sounding, the warmth/clarity ratio is just perfect for my taste after proper EQing, it's right there in-between where warmness cause a too smooth/muddy sound and laid-back/analytical sound for best possible detail/clarity etc. XB700 is slightly too much laid-back and the mids are also somewhat more laid-back and recessed (not much but a bit) and highs are slightly too much pronounced compared to mids especially, XB500 IMO is better balanced in that regard when the huge bass boost is put aside ofc.

 

To rapaddict> I think XB500 and XB700 both have about the same sound quality, it's just down to personal preference what you like better. I can't unfortunately tell what you prefer though but I could guess at least the bass on XB500 could be more to your liking, then if you like the more laid-back sound and brighter highs of XB700 or warmer sound of XB500 with smoother highs I have no idea about. They are easily found in stores though so perhaps you could demo them somewhere but it doesn't change the fact that XB500 is much more easier driven than XB700, in the specs you can see this as 1500mW max power handling capacity (XB500) vs 3000mW (XB700) so XB500 is more suited for iPod use in that regard.


Edited by RPGWiZaRD - 11/29/10 at 8:02am
post #14 of 31

Look into the Denpon D1100s. They are purported to have a TON of bass. How it stacks up to the XB500 I don't know, but I am guessing the D1100s bass might be slightly tighter and more impactful with better sound in all frequency ranges. However, they are $150, so you might as well start with the XB500s. Heck, you could even buy both for $200.

post #15 of 31

I've own the xb700 for a good month now. Its definitely amazing with an amp. You dont really need an amp to feel the bass massaging your ears either. I just tested it through my ipod, listening to T.O.P- Turn it up. LOTS OF BOOM BOOM BASS. though I cant really compare to others since, its my first mad bass cans. definitely bang for the buck @ $80 bucks at amazon dot com. 


Edited by dabido - 11/30/10 at 3:18pm
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