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IEM: need advice

post #1 of 10
Thread Starter 

Hi all,

 

I'd like to try IEM's but I know almost nothing about them.

I would use them mainly (or only ?) while travelling by train or plane, so one very strong instance is isolation from outside noise; together with sound quality of course.

So, first of all: do you think I could get a good isolation on train/plane or is it a battle lost from the start ?

 

My ear 'conducts' are narrow, I guess, as the earbuds of the Sennheiser CX500 that I own are quite fastidious to me: does this mean that I should not consider IEM's at all, or are there some 'comfortable' models ?

 

Budget: undefined. I mean: I would like to spend less than, say, 150€ (I think it's about 200$ or so), but it's definitively not something I must buy tomorrow, I'm not in a hurry, so if you tell me that such sum is not at all sufficient to buy something decent, I can delay purchase and... save money in the meantime (but I will never ever spend, for example, 500$...)

 

I saw a used pair of Shure SE210, coming toghether with an Ibasso T4, at an affordable price: apart from the iBasso, what do you think of the SE210 ? do they isolate good ? and what about sound ?

 

 

thanks a lot, ciao

daniele


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post #2 of 10

Why not try an Ety? Isolation is unbeatable and most of them are well within your price range. The HF5 is particularly impressive for the asking price.

post #3 of 10

Shure isolation is pretty good, yes, but at pretty much any price, i'd go with an ety as joker says. Use them with foam tips and you can fall asleep at piccadilly circus in rush hour.

post #4 of 10
Thread Starter 

thanks for your advice, I'll start getting some informations about Etymotics.

(Marcus, the image of sleeping at Picadilly Circus in the rush hour was very convincing ! :-D)

 

ciao

daniele

post #5 of 10
Thread Starter 

one more question: I've visited the Etymotic web site and I saw the ER-4's have a retail price of 299$, but I've found them at lower prices in several other sites (e.g. Amazon), so that they are just a little above my budget; similarly, the HF-5 are way below my budget.

so, I could have the choice between spending much less than I expected (...I'd better say fear) or spending a little more but... but what ?

I mean: are the ER-4 considerably better than the HF5 ? do they win hands down or is it just "nuances" that I may not appreciate when listening on a plane by an iPod -though I use only uncompressed files ?

should I go for quality regardless to the rest, or should I go for a bang-for-the-bucks purchase (considering that these would be my first 'real' IEM's) ?

 

thanks a lot, ciao

daniele 

post #6 of 10

Not many earphones regularly sell at their RRP so, yes, if you've been looking at retail your budget probably goes further than you thought. To my ears I wouldn't call the er4 ('s' in my case) significantly better than the hf5, there are differences, but they are subtle improvements. Also the er4 is more power hungry (consider battery life etc.) The hf5 also can be worn over ear so cuts down cable noise which can be an issue on the er4. If it were me, i'd go for the hf5.

post #7 of 10

I'd look around. Etys come on and off sale from time to time.  I picked up my ER 4Ps on Amazon for $180, a week after they'd been $149. Maybe this won't happen until after the holidays, but I think they're worth waiting for. 

 

The isolation is pretty phenomenal. And if you like what people call an analytical signature, these can't be beat. I had the Shure 210 too and liked them, but prefer the clarity and detail of the etys. 

 

(Also no cable issues, knock on wood.)

post #8 of 10
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Originally Posted by ljokerl View Post

Why not try an Ety? Isolation is unbeatable and most of them are well within your price range.


x2

 

if you can fit an er4p in your budget it will definately be an upgrade to hf5 and you always have an option of changing it from P to S if you decide on getting an amp. most of the sellers did have er4p for under $200 but the prices have increased everywhere including ebay and amazon so if you do find one under 200 it would be an excellent deal. the cheapest deal is prolly

 

http://cgi.ebay.com/NEW-Etymotic-ER4P-MicroPro-ER-4P-BLACK-Earphones-Earbud-/360260341598?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item53e1308f5e

 

the se210 are not bad but i would definately go with the er4p or westone 2 as they have much better sound quality, isolation and comfort.

post #9 of 10


 

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Originally Posted by Marcus_C View Post

Not many earphones regularly sell at their RRP so, yes, if you've been looking at retail your budget probably goes further than you thought. To my ears I wouldn't call the er4 ('s' in my case) significantly better than the hf5, there are differences, but they are subtle improvements. Also the er4 is more power hungry (consider battery life etc.) The hf5 also can be worn over ear so cuts down cable noise which can be an issue on the er4. If it were me, i'd go for the hf5.



This pretty much sums up how I feel too. I'm getting custom tips for my HF5 some time this month which I suspect may be a better investment than moving up to the ER4P (I've owned the ER4S as well but it's not the easiest earphone to live with day-to-day).

post #10 of 10
Thread Starter 

I thank you all.

You convinced me to an Etymotic model; it'll probably be HF5, but I'll think it over for a while before the definitive decision: as I told, I'm not in a hurry.

I've also read a recent thread of comparison between HF2 and ER4 and the opinions there seem to go in the same direction (ER4 better, but not so much better; better q/p ratio for the HF); moreover, due to the expected use of these IEM's (travelling), the "no-need-for-an-amp" could be a "plus" for the HF5.

 

I'm curious about the custom tips, I've read about it on the Ety web site and it intrigues me, as I'm afraid my ear channels are quite narrow... but I guess that would be quite expensive.

Anyway, let's go step by step...

 

thanks again,

 

ciao

daniele

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