What to get: Clip+ vs. Fuze vs. Fuze+ - Page 2

Not to mention the headache of the nipple-and-frisbee navigation rigmarole you have to run through to do anything with the Fuze. It's even worse than the iPods that lack direct volume buttons. Sound is good, but everything else about that player is a sack of thoughtlessness.

well I don't agree. I just put it in my pocket and skip tracks, adjust volume or play/pause while it is in my pocket.
 

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Originally Posted by shigzeo 

Not to mention the headache of the nipple-and-frisbee navigation rigmarole you have to run through to do anything with the Fuze. It's even worse than the iPods that lack direct volume buttons. Sound is good, but everything else about that player is a sack of thoughtlessness.

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Not to mention the headache of the nipple-and-frisbee navigation rigmarole you have to run through to do anything with the Fuze. It's even worse than the iPods that lack direct volume buttons. Sound is good, but everything else about that player is a sack of thoughtlessness.

+1. Mine have been demoted to use as a source for powered computer speakers, at work,  on shuffle mode....so I don't have to deal with the wheel and nipple.

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Originally Posted by ClieOS 

Only Fuze has a line-out. Clip+ and Fuze+ don't support line-out. Alsu Clip+ and Fuze+ have very different hardware (while Fuze/clip/clip+ share similar hardware), so they probably not going to have the same sound.

I didn't know that.  You mean the Fuze + can't be docked to an amp like the old Fuze?  What's up with that? 

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Originally Posted by shigzeo 

Not to mention the headache of the nipple-and-frisbee navigation rigmarole you have to run through to do anything with the Fuze. It's even worse than the iPods that lack direct volume buttons. Sound is good, but everything else about that player is a sack of thoughtlessness.

+1. Mine have been demoted to use as a source for powered computer speakers, at work,  on shuffle mode....so I don't have to deal with the wheel and nipple.

I use my 8 GB Fuze with 8GB card mostly at work, but I've never had any trouble using the wheel and button.

I agree that buttons can be a blessing, but a turning button is not a good idea and the size of the nipple on the Fuze is horrid. I don't have large fingers, but unless I angle my finger just right, I often hit the wheel instead, changing tracks, or other stuff. The design is horrid, especially in light of Sansa's anti-Apple campaign where they made fun of proprietary and then poked fun in forum comments at lack of volume controls, etc. The fuze would be much better if that wheel was a touch wheel like the iPod and it had volume buttons like the Clip. Actually, it would be much better if instead of a stupid (and pointless) wheel, there was just a few buttons that are impossible to mis-hit. Clip FTW.
 

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well I don't agree. I just put it in my pocket and skip tracks, adjust volume or play/pause while it is in my pocket.
 

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Originally Posted by shigzeo 

Not to mention the headache of the nipple-and-frisbee navigation rigmarole you have to run through to do anything with the Fuze. It's even worse than the iPods that lack direct volume buttons. Sound is good, but everything else about that player is a sack of thoughtlessness.

 

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I didn't know that.  You mean the Fuze + can't be docked to an amp like the old Fuze?  What's up with that? 

No dock on Fuze+, just a mini USB port and a headphone socket.

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Originally Posted by shigzeo 

...The fuze would be much better if that wheel was a touch wheel like the iPod and it had volume buttons like the Clip. Actually, it would be much better if instead of a stupid (and pointless) wheel, there was just a few buttons that are impossible to mis-hit. Clip FTW.

Personally, my finger is more agreeable with the Fuze wheel than Nano 4's touch wheel.

Fuze is a good choice and if you rockbox it you will be able to tune it to your liking.  As for the wheel and center button I guess it comes down to the individual user, I have really large hands and have not had any issues with it.  Alot of players do not have any tactile buttons and I would take the fuze's setup over those anyday, I really liked the positioning of the S9's buttons but I could never get used to the J3's.

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Originally Posted by upstateguy 

I didn't know that.  You mean the Fuze + can't be docked to an amp like the old Fuze?  What's up with that? 

No dock on Fuze+, just a mini USB port and a headphone socket.

 

That's weird, why did they do that?

I have a question: can you access and play the music on the Fuze + from you computer like you can with the old Fuze? 

If you can, the Fuze+ has a digital out pathway like the ipad.

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Originally Posted by upstateguy 

That's weird, why did they do that?

 

I have a question: can you access and play the music on the Fuze + from you computer like you can with the old Fuze? 

 

If you can, the Fuze+ has a digital out pathway like the ipad.

Won't know, since I haven't used one yet.

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That's weird, why did they do that?

 

I have a question: can you access and play the music on the Fuze + from you computer like you can with the old Fuze? 

 

If you can, the Fuze+ has a digital out pathway like the ipad.

well, you can acces the files on it and if you want to you can play those using a media player if that's what you meant...

thought i was buying a v2, turns out it's a plus, wrong image posted by vendor. touchpad is horrific, took me 2 tries to get the thing to english setting, first i accidentally set it to servocroatic(i guess) and when i finally found the change language menu i switched it to arabic. the old scrollwheel/nipple was way way better, never had any problems with it. when i push the nipple it responds(with a click), when i think i push the centre of the cross on the plus i usually miss it. i even managed to finish pokemon silver using the old fuze (rockboxed)

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well, you can acces the files on it and if you want to you can play those using a media player if that's what you meant...

I was hoping  for some way to access the digital information the way you can with an ipad.

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Originally Posted by pepvk0 

thought i was buying a v2, turns out it's a plus, wrong image posted by vendor. touchpad is horrific, took me 2 tries to get the thing to english setting, first i accidentally set it to servocroatic(i guess) and when i finally found the change language menu i switched it to arabic. the old scrollwheel/nipple was way way better, never had any problems with it. when i push the nipple it responds(with a click), when i think i push the centre of the cross on the plus i usually miss it. i even managed to finish pokemon silver using the old fuze (rockboxed)

So there ya go.... a lesson on how to take something good and make it worse.
 

I have used a friend's Fuze+. It is horrible. The user interface is different and is NOT intuitive. With a microSD card, performence is unacceptable. Sound quality is fine, but everything else is really bad. I also have a Fuze, Clip, and Clip+. If Line Out is indeed a requirement, the Fuze works great. Sound is good. The size of the Clip+ is a big advantage, but the small screen means I must have my glasses on to use it.I Rockboxed an old Clip I had and didn't like it. Just my 2 cents.

Brad.

Don't bother with the Fuze+. From what I've heard, it's considerably worse than the original Fuze on a price - performance scale.

I have both the Fuze and the Clip+ and they both sound the same to my ears with Rockbox installed. if you're intending to use them for music only, I'd say the Clip+ is the better choice, purely for its increased portability.