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In general or specifically for a batch/promo order?


Sorry, I should have been more specific - I meant from a promo order.

 

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Hrm, I really wonder if I should get a refit..


I'm getting glimpses of incredible technical superiority, smoothness, perfect atmosphere, liquid presentation.. but on the other hand, a few things sound slightly unnatural. It also feels somewhat awkward in my ears.. and when I move my head around I can lose seal easily. Am I supposed to lose seal when I just look upwards?

 

Any sort of facial expression other than a poker face also makes it sort of lose seal. Should I expect better than that?


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Hrm, I really wonder if I should get a refit..


I'm getting glimpses of incredible technical superiority, smoothness, perfect atmosphere, liquid presentation.. but on the other hand, a few things sound slightly unnatural. It also feels somewhat awkward in my ears.. and when I move my head around I can lose seal easily. Am I supposed to lose seal when I just look upwards?

 

Any sort of facial expression other than a poker face also makes it sort of lose seal. Should I expect better than that?


Nope. Unless you told the lab to make your custom that way.

 

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Guys,

 

Ever since I got my pair of Miracles, I've noticed something was wrong with my right earpiece.  I know for a fact that I have a slight hearing loss on my right ear but damn it really seemed off.  I figured that was just the way they sounded but I came across you guys talking about polarity issues.  I flipped the cable and it seems like the polarity really was actually off.  After switching, the bass impact increased and they finally sound like they are supposed to. 

 

I would strongly suggest that everyone try this if they suspect something sounds off with their iems!!

 

 

 

 

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Guys,

 

Ever since I got my pair of Miracles, I've noticed something was wrong with my right earpiece.  I know for a fact that I have a slight hearing loss on my right ear but damn it really seemed off.  I figured that was just the way they sounded but I came across you guys talking about polarity issues.  I flipped the cable and it seems like the polarity really was actually off.  After switching, the bass impact increased and they finally sound like they are supposed to. 

 

I would strongly suggest that everyone try this if they suspect something sounds off with their iems!!


Wow, and here I thought it was just me. I'm quite surprised, and somewhat disappointed if I'm to be honest, that UM overlooked such an obvious issue. Upon listening to my Miracles right out of the box, with the cables oriented exactly the way UM sent them, it was painstakingly obvious that the sound was off. Considering both Poetik and I have experienced this now, I too would urge those within the group buy (and outside of) to play with the cable orientation, in the event that their custom sounds rather off.

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It's not that strange during the assembling process the sockect's polarity got installed the wrong way, and the different color cables used for wiring inside might be too tiny to be spotted.

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I wonder if it is an internal wiring thing, or a cable thing. Has anyone with this issue tried a known-good cable? 

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Originally Posted by Poetik View Post

Guys,

 

Ever since I got my pair of Miracles, I've noticed something was wrong with my right earpiece.  I know for a fact that I have a slight hearing loss on my right ear but damn it really seemed off.  I figured that was just the way they sounded but I came across you guys talking about polarity issues.  I flipped the cable and it seems like the polarity really was actually off.  After switching, the bass impact increased and they finally sound like they are supposed to. 

 

I would strongly suggest that everyone try this if they suspect something sounds off with their iems!!

 

 

 

 



 

i havent read this thread in a while b/c i sold my miracles, but boy did my miracles sound off, so off in fact that well, i sold them.... i wonder if this was the issue for me too.  Can you tell me exactly what flipping the cable means?  does that mean turning the connector around and inserting it in the other way, or actually putting the L in the right slot and the R in the left slot?

 

thanks

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I wonder if it is an internal wiring thing, or a cable thing. Has anyone with this issue tried a known-good cable? 


It's an internal wiring issue. I've already spoken to UM about this, back when I initially encountered the issue, and have been ensured that they've taken note of it, in case of any problems that may arise in the future. For the time being, it's nothing I can't live with, being it's simple enough to switch one side of the cable around, so that the L/R on one side of the cable faces the opposite direction, as compared to the other side of the cable.

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there is always going to be a little part of me that wonders if that was my issue, and if so, what they would have sounded like.. oh well, I'm very happy with my ES5's now, so all is well.

 

 

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i havent read this thread in a while b/c i sold my miracles, but boy did my miracles sound off, so off in fact that well, i sold them.... i wonder if this was the issue for me too.  Can you tell me exactly what flipping the cable means?  does that mean turning the connector around and inserting it in the other way, or actually putting the L in the right slot and the R in the left slot?

 

thanks


I recall having read your impression, my friend, and having suggested reversing the cables, as it may have been a polarity issue. All it means is flipping around the cable orientation on one side, so that if the letter L on the left side of the cable, for instance, is facing inwards, flip the right side of the cable around so that the R now faces outwards, and vice versa.

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I recall having read your impression, my friend, and having suggested reversing the cables, as it may have been a polarity issue. All it means is flipping around the cable orientation on one side, so that if the letter L on the left side of the cable, for instance, is facing inwards, flip the right side of the cable around so that the R now faces outwards, and vice versa.



 

i must have missed your suggestion.. oops...  

 

for the socketed jack style that i had, it would have involved modding the connector as well, because they have a groove in them that lines up with the shell which in turn has a raised bump that fits in the groove.

 

oh well, its all in the past now... live and learn...   I'd be willing to be that this was indeed the issue though.

 

well for what its worth i just tried this on my es5's and couldnt tell a difference no matter what i did...  go figure.

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well for what its worth i just tried this on my es5's and couldnt tell a difference no matter what i did...  go figure.


As long as you're happy with your ES5's, my friend, that's all that matters. If it's any consolation, I recently sold a pair of ES5's on behalf of a friend, and for whatever reason, his ES5's were literally 1/3 smaller than my Miracles. Talk about small ears (or are they constructed smaller ?), since I'd consider my ears about average in size. Anyways, owing to the much smaller size of his ES5's, I stretched a pair of HiFiMan biflanges over them, and achieved a surprisingly good fit. Being that his ES5's were the real deal from Westone, and not a reshell, I got a good listen for the intended sound signature. Right off the bat, I preferred the ES5's lush and forward midrange, as I also found it slightly more resolving than that of my Miracles. I also preferred the ES5's low end. On the other hand, it was the high end where the Miracle truly had the advantage, while the ES5 had comparatively less sparkle and presence, but wasn't lacking in the least bit either. Just smoother and more polite. I also personally prefer the Miracles balanced presentation, versus the ES5's midcentric one. Hence, it's quite obvious that they both have their pros and cons, as is the case when comparing any high end universals. In any case, I was quite impressed with the ES5, so needless to say, you still have one hell of a custom monitor, my friend. smile.gif

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As long as you're happy with your ES5's, my friend, that's all that matters. If it's any consolation, I recently sold a pair of ES5's on behalf of a friend, and for whatever reason, his ES5's were literally 1/3 smaller than my Miracles. Talk about small ears (or are they constructed smaller ?), since I'd consider my ears about average in size. Anyways, owing to the much smaller size of his ES5's, I stretched a pair of HiFiMan biflanges over them, and achieved a surprisingly good fit. Being that his ES5's were the real deal from Westone, and not a reshell, I got a good listen for the intended sound signature. Right off the bat, I preferred the ES5's lush and forward midrange, as I also found it slightly more resolving than that of my Miracles. I also preferred the ES5's low end. On the other hand, it was the high end where the Miracle truly had the advantage, while the ES5 had comparatively less sparkle and presence, but wasn't lacking in the least bit either. Just smoother and more polite. I also personally prefer the Miracles balanced presentation, versus the ES5's midcentric one. Hence, it's quite obvious that they both have their pros and cons, as is the case when comparing any high end universals. In any case, I was quite impressed with the ES5, so needless to say, you still have one hell of a custom monitor, my friend. smile.gif



 

to me, both of them required what would probably be seen as "radical" eq'ing to sound "true neutral" to me, but the miracle just wouldnt take to eq'ing well at all, while the es5 responded brilliantly, and also was a lot simpler of an eq job to do.

 

clearly there are many very happy customers on both fronts, and thats what matters.

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It's an internal wiring issue. I've already spoken to UM about this, back when I initially encountered the issue, and have been ensured that they've taken note of it, in case of any problems that may arise in the future. For the time being, it's nothing I can't live with, being it's simple enough to switch one side of the cable around, so that the L/R on one side of the cable faces the opposite direction, as compared to the other side of the cable.



Do you still have your fr graph there? Even though it's not some massive defect it makes me wonder how that reversed ear got through the QC. Its curve on the fr graph should be significantly uncorrelated with the other ear, which I assume to have been correctly wired.

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