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post #2206 of 2247
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Originally Posted by etys rule View Post

Hi all.  Forgive me for not reading 147 pages of posts, but I am considering buying the NFB-12.  My only concern is I listen primarily to rock, metal, folk/rock (SRV) and like my music musical and dark.  Will be listening through HE-400 as these are my only phones presently.  May upgrade to LCD2.

 

In your opinion, would I be happy with the NFB-12?  If not, would there be any Audio-gd products I'd be happy with or are they more neutral for the most part.

 

*I use the term neutral to describe sound as recorded on medium without any coloration.  I happen to like coloration.  Thanks.
 

 

I think the NFB-12 is on the warm/darker side of neutral, so I think you'd be fine with them.  When I used my DT880/600's with them, I liked the coloration it gave.  I thought it tamed the highs just a bit, added some bass weight, and overall added some flesh to everything.

post #2207 of 2247

captouch, thanks for the response. As the consensus on Audio-gd products seems to me to be all over the road, depending on who you ask, I am hoping to narrow down my choices before I pull the trigger.

post #2208 of 2247
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Originally Posted by captouch View Post

 

I think the NFB-12 is on the warm/darker side of neutral, so I think you'd be fine with them.  When I used my DT880/600's with them, I liked the coloration it gave.  I thought it tamed the highs just a bit, added some bass weight, and overall added some flesh to everything.

 

In my limited use, I would agree with this statement.

I also found my DT880-600's to be more tollerable (in terms of their extreme highs).

The NFB-12 seemed to add punch and weight... as compared to the Benchmark DAC1-PRE (which I've had for years).

post #2209 of 2247

I too think you'll like the NFB-12. With my Q701, I found the NFB-12 to be a very good choice. It makes them less fatiguing and overall more pleasurable. 

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So I just built a computer, coming from an iMac. I'm using optical out just like I did with my iMac, but on my new PC it sounds awful. Really tinny and electronic (?) sounding. What gives?

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Originally Posted by anoxy View Post

So I just built a computer, coming from an iMac. I'm using optical out just like I did with my iMac, but on my new PC it sounds awful. Really tinny and electronic (?) sounding. What gives?

 

Well... how are you feeding it? Coax, optical, USB? How did you feed it before, what software, type of files, etc... ? Lots of variables.

post #2212 of 2247

....did you even read the post you responded to lol? Clearly says optical out just like before. Same software, iTunes. Apple lossless files.

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Originally Posted by anoxy View Post

....did you even read the post you responded to lol? Clearly says optical out just like before. Same software, iTunes. Apple lossless files.

 

Oops... I guess I missed that part. redface.gif

 

OK then... I remember reading a while back that iTunes on Mac's 'sound' better due to its ability to play bitperfect on Macs, but not on PC's. There may be other factors. I don't use iTunes on my PC's. I use JRiver, which sounds better to me.

This seems true whether the files I play are Lossless or high bitrate (24/96).
You can try JRiver Jukebox for free. It might help.

 

Also... your PC may be outputting at a downgraded or upgraded rate. You may want to check it's not up, or down-converting for you.

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Wow, JRiver is awesome. Thank you for bringing this to my attention. As a long time mac user, i'm still trying to find Windows alternatives to all of my beloved OS X apps. This one is a keeper.

 

How would I go about checking to see if my computer is down-sampling?

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Control Panel > Hardware & Sound > Sound > Double-click on the device you are outputting from. There you will see all your options for that device.

Change devices if necessary, but on the tab "Advanced", make sure you chose 24bit / 96khz (Studio Quality), and test it.

Make sure Enhancements are disabled (checkbox)

Output (Levels) at 100%.

And as for the Supported Formats tab... that's up to you and your device. I'd check 44, 48, 88, 96, 192, whatever along those lines are available to you.

 

Click OK to all when done.

 

Now that won't ensure perfection...

 

You need to go into the Options in JRiver, and make sure WASAPI is checked for bitperfect playback.

Tools > Options > Audio > Audio output > Output Mode.  (This is the menu for JRiver Media Center... may be a bit different for Jukebox.

 

Good luck.

 

EDIT: If you have a device like ASUS Xonar STX, or some other high-end soundboard, be sure to check all your output options for that. It will be specific to the board.


Edited by shane55 - 3/17/13 at 10:27am
post #2216 of 2247

Heck ya, you're the man shane. Thanks for all of your help. Sounds a hell of a lot better now. I think i'll fork out the 50 bones for Jriver once my trial is up too.

post #2217 of 2247
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Originally Posted by anoxy View Post

Heck ya, you're the man shane. Thanks for all of your help. Sounds a hell of a lot better now. I think i'll fork out the 50 bones for Jriver once my trial is up too.

 

Rock on, my friend.

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Are any of you using your NFB-12 in a speaker set-up?
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Originally Posted by anoxy View Post

Are any of you using your NFB-12 in a speaker set-up?

 

Yes I am.

I'm sending the DAC out to my Pioneer Elite (ICE class D) receiver, then to my Ascends.

 

Brilliant.

post #2220 of 2247
Nice!
I just ordered some Emotiva Airmotiv 4 powered speakers for my computer station. Do you know if i'll I be able to hook them up to the NFB-12?

Or rather, I should be asking what cables I will need to accomplish this...
It says they have an XLR input and single ended RCA input. So do I just need RCA-->3.5mm cable?
Edited by anoxy - 4/3/13 at 10:15pm
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