NFB12 is cheaper in that you can pick it up under $200 used (around 215 with shipping new i think). and its an amp and DAC in one.
I liked mine paired with the hd650 and hd600. great amp/dac for the price point IMO
NFB12 is cheaper in that you can pick it up under $200 used (around 215 with shipping new i think). and its an amp and DAC in one.
I liked mine paired with the hd650 and hd600. great amp/dac for the price point IMO
I'm in the UK so the chance of getting either second hand is remote (although I'd prefer new for Warranty reasons anyway). Plus the Matrix USB is a DAC as well. So that's both arguments out :P
I'm interested purely in a quality perspective (which is more transparent, keeps a wide soundstage, etc).
how would the Audio-GD NFB-12 pair with the Audio Technica AD900s. Or is there a better/cheaper DAC to go with. Don't really need an amp for these cans I'm told.
@Brooko
Anyway, I am thinking of a new $200 desktop purchase. The NFB-12 came to my attention from one of my fellow Head-Fi pals. I then found your review. Would the NFB-12 for $220 approx still be one of the best non snake oil purchases you have made?
Since you still have it I guess it would. I am also interested in Little Dots and I see you have one and your review talked about it. Are you able to tell the differences between the amp of the NFB and the Mark IV you have?
I would like a new unit, that doesn't follow Head-Fi's snake oil sometimes.
I see Headfonia did not like it.
I am thinking of getting the NFB 12.1 version. I already paid $200 so why not $15 more for more features.

@Brooko
Anyway, I am thinking of a new $200 desktop purchase. The NFB-12 came to my attention from one of my fellow Head-Fi pals. I then found your review. Would the NFB-12 for $220 approx still be one of the best non snake oil purchases you have made?
Since you still have it I guess it would. I am also interested in Little Dots and I see you have one and your review talked about it. Are you able to tell the differences between the amp of the NFB and the Mark IV you have?
I would like a new unit, that doesn't follow Head-Fi's snake oil sometimes.
I see Headfonia did not like it.
I am thinking of getting the NFB 12.1 version. I already paid $200 so why not $15 more for more features.
Replied here:
http://www.head-fi.org/t/610954/200-desktop-amp-and-dac/15#post_8398553
I've had my NFB12 for about three weeks. So I figured I would post my findings so far with my HD-650:
USB vs. Coax vs. Optical: I have a motherboard that had all three so I wanted to try them all and post
the differences between the three. I will start off by saying that USB wins
hands down with my setup. The bass is a little bloated but the soundstage
was way better and intrument separation was way better with USB. Coaxial
came in second with a good tonal balance but soundstage was rather flat.
It's like going from 3D to 2D IMO. And Optical bringing up the rear. It had less
detail than the other two and less soundstaging as well.
Filter setting: I tried all the filters and ended up using 8x Oversampling Minimum phase
apodising filter. Tames the bass pretty well and has good detail and smoothness
with my setup.
Conclusion: I love the NFB12. It is smooth sounding and never harsh or fatiguing. But it is
heavy on the bass for the HD-650's IMO. I had to eq 250 Hz and below down a
few notches to balance the sound out to where it was good (See picture below).
And now the sound is simply awesome. I haven't heard better sound out of my
headphones. It sounds clear with great texture and I love the soundstaging.
Simply amazing!
Ok so I use paypal's send money feature, input the amount and send it to him?
Yes, that's what I did. Send an inquiry for what you want and they'll send an invoice. You may have to go back and forth a couple of times, but once you confirm the product and shipping method is correct, you just send your payment to the Paypal address they provide and they'll send a confirmation email and you're set.

Yes, that's what I did. Send an inquiry for what you want and they'll send an invoice. You may have to go back and forth a couple of times, but once you confirm the product and shipping method is correct, you just send your payment to the Paypal address they provide and they'll send a confirmation email and you're set.
BOUGHT! :)
I'll use it for a few months and see about doing a seperate Review on it.
No offense but as a member of the E17 thread....posting reviews or other important stuff in a mass thread isn't helpful to people that want a .... inviter. Whenever I search for devies, if I see many review posts on head-fi, it makes me think, this device is popular and I can find many people that have it and will cause me to look into the device more. Most of these smaller devices don't have pages or posts like that and are all in one thread which to me doesn't draw people in as they have to search through info which many don't want to do.
So I'll have it for a month and MAYBE do a review on it. I see (post with) Rikkun(Tilpo) almost ever single day so that helps :)
The Sampling and all the options is going to make this a bit harder though.
That would be great if you post your opinions. Let us know which cans you are using it with also.
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BOUGHT! :)
I'll use it for a few months and see about doing a seperate Review on it.
No offense but as a member of the E17 thread....posting reviews or other important stuff in a mass thread isn't helpful to people that want a .... inviter. Whenever I search for devies, if I see many review posts on head-fi, it makes me think, this device is popular and I can find many people that have it and will cause me to look into the device more. Most of these smaller devices don't have pages or posts like that and are all in one thread which to me doesn't draw people in as they have to search through info which many don't want to do.
So I'll have it for a month and MAYBE do a review on it. I see (post with) Rikkun(Tilpo) almost ever single day so that helps :)
The Sampling and all the options is going to make this a bit harder though.
I just got a pair of Beyerdynamic T1's and so far I'm liking them with the 2x oversampling Linear phase softknee filter. And Dare I say I think they sound even nicer than my 650's. No need for any EQ. But these are preliminary observations. I'll post more impressions once they have a few more days to break-in.

I just got a pair of Beyerdynamic T1's and so far I'm liking them with the 2x oversampling Linear phase softknee filter. And Dare I say I think they sound even nicer than my 650's. No need for any EQ. But these are preliminary observations. I'll post more impressions once they have a few more days to break-in.
They should as they are far better phones, as to be expected at the price.
Enjoy your T1's.
Thanks!
Just an update. I like the 4x oversampling linear phase soft knee filter to be the best with the T1's so far.