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The Philips SHP2500's go lower than the Beats and they sound better too. The cost $12 online lol



I know the Solo and Studios blow, but the Pros are actually pretty nice after proper burn in.

post #47 of 173
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The Philips SHP2500's go lower than the Beats and they sound better too. The cost $12 online lol



:rofl: <- This forum needs one of these for posts like this one. You, sir, are full of win!

 

P.S. I'm not doubting the validity of your suggestion, BTW. I just think the price of your suggestion about sums up the discourse we're having in this thread.

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lol When I first saw these at Best Buy I read the price wrong and thought it said $30. I was like "Man, those dudes at Head-Fi are just too damn harsh. These aren't the greatest phones you can get for $30 but they're not that bad."

 

Then I read the price again, laughed and walked away feeling sorry for any brand sheep ignorant enough to buy these.

Lol
 

 

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Anyone else listen to the Beats Pro? As I said, I think they sound pretty good after proper burn in.



Plus, I can get em for only 225!!!

If you enjoy the sound, go for them but I think looking around a little bit might pay off in the long run. Just my 2 cents
 


What would you recommend for 225 that has more low end punch than the Beats Pro? If there really aren't any good competitors at 225, then what about compared to the retail price of 399?

 


The Sony XB series might have more low end punch than the Beats Pro.  I've heard the Beats, not the XB's, but FWIR about the XB's, the bass is powerful.  XB500 more so.  And they're only $40/70/130 MSRP for the 300/500/700.  Amazon has them for cheaper.

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lol When I first saw these at Best Buy I read the price wrong and thought it said $30. I was like "Man, those dudes at Head-Fi are just too damn harsh. These aren't the greatest phones you can get for $30 but they're not that bad."

 

Then I read the price again, laughed and walked away feeling sorry for any brand sheep ignorant enough to buy these.

Lol
 

 

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Anyone else listen to the Beats Pro? As I said, I think they sound pretty good after proper burn in.



Plus, I can get em for only 225!!!

If you enjoy the sound, go for them but I think looking around a little bit might pay off in the long run. Just my 2 cents
 


What would you recommend for 225 that has more low end punch than the Beats Pro? If there really aren't any good competitors at 225, then what about compared to the retail price of 399?

 


How about the Beyerdynamic DT770? They definitely fit within the MSRP, and they can usually be found for around $200.

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Originally Posted by Olimoronio View Post

lol When I first saw these at Best Buy I read the price wrong and thought it said $30. I was like "Man, those dudes at Head-Fi are just too damn harsh. These aren't the greatest phones you can get for $30 but they're not that bad."

 

Then I read the price again, laughed and walked away feeling sorry for any brand sheep ignorant enough to buy these.

Lol
 

 

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Anyone else listen to the Beats Pro? As I said, I think they sound pretty good after proper burn in.



Plus, I can get em for only 225!!!

If you enjoy the sound, go for them but I think looking around a little bit might pay off in the long run. Just my 2 cents
 


What would you recommend for 225 that has more low end punch than the Beats Pro? If there really aren't any good competitors at 225, then what about compared to the retail price of 399?

 


The Sony XB series might have more low end punch than the Beats Pro.  I've heard the Beats, not the XB's, but FWIR about the XB's, the bass is powerful.  XB500 more so.  And they're only $40/70/130 MSRP for the 300/500/700.  Amazon has them for cheaper.


No one believes me on this but the Auvio Concert Class phones sound a lot like the Sony XB500's only clearer throughout the spectrum and tighter bass. $50 @ RadioShack.

 

 

You do have to take the hard felt off the grills though... Oh my...

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That was most obnoxious article I've read in a while. I started skipping around after reading about 2 paragraphs. It's written TERRIBLY. 

 

Can't blame monster for the beats, they're making a killing selling the things; props to them. 


I don't agree that it was written terribly.  There's a lot to learn there and we better pay attention.  Otherwise, the headphones we prefer are going to get drowned out by the marketing bonanza.  Everyone makes light of the neon green Quincy Jones-AKG stuff, but at least AKG is trying.  We're all going to end up with SkullCandy's unless the mfrs we prefer learn to compete for the general masses.
 

How is AKG trying? They recabled and recolored the old stock of K701's and called them a new headphone. Is that trying? NO!
 


Hell yes, it's trying.  They're trying to attract someone other than us geeks.  Cut 'em some slack.  If some funky color gets someone to try a true audiophile headphone, I say more power to 'em.
 


Since when is the K-701 a true audiophile headphone?

 

 

 

 

:D

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That was most obnoxious article I've read in a while. I started skipping around after reading about 2 paragraphs. It's written TERRIBLY. 

 

Can't blame monster for the beats, they're making a killing selling the things; props to them. 


I don't agree that it was written terribly.  There's a lot to learn there and we better pay attention.  Otherwise, the headphones we prefer are going to get drowned out by the marketing bonanza.  Everyone makes light of the neon green Quincy Jones-AKG stuff, but at least AKG is trying.  We're all going to end up with SkullCandy's unless the mfrs we prefer learn to compete for the general masses.
 

How is AKG trying? They recabled and recolored the old stock of K701's and called them a new headphone. Is that trying? NO!
 


Hell yes, it's trying.  They're trying to attract someone other than us geeks.  Cut 'em some slack.  If some funky color gets someone to try a true audiophile headphone, I say more power to 'em.
 


Since when is the K-701 a true audiophile headphone?

 

 

 

 

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It is in an alternate universe where the K1000 and K240 Sextett were never released. biggrin.gif

post #53 of 173
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Since when is the K-701 a true audiophile headphone?

 

 

 

 

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Lol, this post is amazing.

 

But the K701 was one of the first headphones designed solely to target the audiophile market, with more gimmicks than any other headphones designed at that time.

 

In a sense, the K701 is the start of "marketing" headphones, even though it appears to not be condemned like the skullcandies and the monsters.

post #54 of 173

monster is making insane $, they just came out with Justin Bieber Beats...so sales are going to extend to the moon.  

post #55 of 173
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monster is making insane $, they just came out with Justin Bieber Beats...so sales are going to extend to the moon.  


Personally, I think that is quite possibly the dumbest marketing decision I've seen in a long time.

 

They are putting money on a pop star that is starting to have a cracking voice, who's starting to drop in popularity, and on to a product that can't release until sometime next year.

 

It is a clear marketing plan to extend to the pre-teen/early teen demographic, who clearly do not have the disposable for higher priced products.

 

My expectation is that this product will fail, and this line extension is going to hurt Monster in the long run.

post #56 of 173
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monster is making insane $, they just came out with Justin Bieber Beats...so sales are going to extend to the moon.  



They'll buy the moon and put a gigantic "b" on it to advertise the product.

post #57 of 173

Also, for 399, the beat box is very good. It isn't as good as my Bowers & Wilkins Zeppelin, but better than the Zeppelin Mini and most other brand name iPod dock/speakers in that price range. I can also use my employee discount and get em for only 239 bucks, which is an amazing value IMO.

post #58 of 173
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monster is making insane $, they just came out with Justin Bieber Beats...so sales are going to extend to the moon.  


Personally, I think that is quite possibly the dumbest marketing decision I've seen in a long time.

 

They are putting money on a pop star that is starting to have a cracking voice, who's starting to drop in popularity, and on to a product that can't release until sometime next year.

 

It is a clear marketing plan to extend to the pre-teen/early teen demographic, who clearly do not have the disposable for higher priced products.

 

My expectation is that this product will fail, and this line extension is going to hurt Monster in the long run.


It is pure genius and Monsters yearly sales prove it.  Enjoy the new face of evil in the headphones world.   The Bieber Beats.  Nobody else but bose and monster even advertise on TV.   I never understood why, small infomercials would suffice :\

 

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post #59 of 173

JUSTIN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! he's a virus that's just spreading EVERYWHERE! he followed me when i went to korea and now he follows me into head-fi?!!!! JUSTIN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

post #60 of 173
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It is pure genius and Monsters yearly sales prove it.  Enjoy the new face of evil in the headphones world.   The Bieber Beats.  Nobody else but bose and monster even advertise on TV.   I never understood why, small infomercials would suffice :\

 

 

Marketing is not that simple, company can't just randomly throw a star on their product and expect it to sell, it must also apply to your demographic.

 

The reason that the current line of Monsters did so well is because they chose the correct mascot for their product, Dre. In the average mainstream hip-hop listener's mind, they all know who Dre is, there is a mutual respect for all that he's done in the music industry. To them, Monster headphones is a must own headphones for hip-hop listeners, and they will block out other information from other sources.

 

When Monster release JustinBeats, assuming that Justin Bieber is still relevant to pop culture, would still bring doubts to Monster owner's mind, because of the drastic change in music genre, the average consumer who already own Monster product will not open up to this new product easily, the hip-hop listeners will not adapt to Justin Bieber's music, and Monster can't force them to.

 

So lets assume that JustinBeats isn't trying to target the existing customers, but brand new ones to increase market share. 

 

Lets face it, Justin Bieber's music is targeted to pre-teen and young teens, who do not have the income to spend on higher end audio equipments. Also, most artists releases albums at around a two year basis, so lets assume that Bieber will release his new album in late 2011. If his music does not stick to its origin, due to his change in voice because of puberty, the old fanbase will also falter. Monster would then have to spend even more money to promote Bieber's image to sell its product.

 

Also, Dre is someone that is viewed as someone who knows about audio equipment due to his many years in the field, Bieber is just another teen star that will be forgotten within two years. DreBeats would keep selling, but JustinBeats will go to the clearance bin the moment that Justin Bieber is forgotten.

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