Beats By Dre: The Secrets - Page 2

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Anyone else see there's a Justin Bieber version of the Beats Solo now? Gave me a good laugh when I saw it advertised in a Best Buy ad this weekend...but then it made me feel sad and empty inside.

They're purple D..he just won best artist of the year at the AMAs ..Is something wrong with people ..no offense..his voice cracked when he performed during the beginning
 

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That was most obnoxious article I've read in a while. I started skipping around after reading about 2 paragraphs. It's written TERRIBLY. 

 

Can't blame monster for the beats, they're making a killing selling the things; props to them. 

I don't agree that it was written terribly.  There's a lot to learn there and we better pay attention.  Otherwise, the headphones we prefer are going to get drowned out by the marketing bonanza.  Everyone makes light of the neon green Quincy Jones-AKG stuff, but at least AKG is trying.  We're all going to end up with SkullCandy's unless the mfrs we prefer learn to compete for the general masses.
 

How is AKG trying? They recabled and recolored the old stock of K701's and called them a new headphone. Is that trying? NO!
 

Hell yes, it's trying.  They're trying to attract someone other than us geeks.  Cut 'em some slack.  If some funky color gets someone to try a true audiophile headphone, I say more power to 'em.
 

Do you ever think things through on a below surface level thought? Do you have no more then a one track mind?

 

K701's are terrible headphones for the consumer market. I can't think of a worse headphone for who they are being marketed to other then maybe K1000's.

 

I'm gonna say it and this is gonna be contraversal, but Bose is a better audio company then AKG currently for the consumer market. Not because they sell better, but because they provide products that work well for the consumer market. They have no need for an amp, they have an mainstreem sound signature, they are isolating, they are comfortable, and they are smaller. Most of which the K701 is not, so no AKG didn't try to provide a headphone that would highlight what quality audio can do if the people who will be using it will not have the equipment to get the most out of it!

So, based on your say-so, AKG should not be allowed to compete in the open market?  What did you think through with that one?  Based on your judgment, AKG should be relegated to a cult niche market and nothing else?  Otherwise they're going to destroy themselves because everyone will realize that they're just bad?  What the heck kind of business philosophy is that?  Thank goodness you're just one opinion or AKG should just fold up their tent right now.

AKG has a variety of quality products..if making them green gets people interested..all the power to them

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AKG has a variety of quality products..if making them green gets people interested..all the power to them

Ditto - good comment.
 

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That was most obnoxious article I've read in a while. I started skipping around after reading about 2 paragraphs. It's written TERRIBLY. 

 

Can't blame monster for the beats, they're making a killing selling the things; props to them. 

I don't agree that it was written terribly.  There's a lot to learn there and we better pay attention.  Otherwise, the headphones we prefer are going to get drowned out by the marketing bonanza.  Everyone makes light of the neon green Quincy Jones-AKG stuff, but at least AKG is trying.  We're all going to end up with SkullCandy's unless the mfrs we prefer learn to compete for the general masses.
 

How is AKG trying? They recabled and recolored the old stock of K701's and called them a new headphone. Is that trying? NO!
 

Hell yes, it's trying.  They're trying to attract someone other than us geeks.  Cut 'em some slack.  If some funky color gets someone to try a true audiophile headphone, I say more power to 'em.
 

Do you ever think things through on a below surface level thought? Do you have no more then a one track mind?

 

K701's are terrible headphones for the consumer market. I can't think of a worse headphone for who they are being marketed to other then maybe K1000's.

 

I'm gonna say it and this is gonna be contraversal, but Bose is a better audio company then AKG currently for the consumer market. Not because they sell better, but because they provide products that work well for the consumer market. They have no need for an amp, they have an mainstreem sound signature, they are isolating, they are comfortable, and they are smaller. Most of which the K701 is not, so no AKG didn't try to provide a headphone that would highlight what quality audio can do if the people who will be using it will not have the equipment to get the most out of it!

So, based on your say-so, AKG should not be allowed to compete in the open market?  What did you think through with that one?  Based on your judgment, AKG should be relegated to a cult niche market and nothing else?  Otherwise they're going to destroy themselves because everyone will realize that they're just bad?  What the heck kind of business philosophy is that?  Thank goodness you're just one opinion or AKG should just fold up their tent right now.

Are you a troll or do you have a messed up sense of logic! I fyou can't provide people who do not have any audio equipment a headphone that is decent without it then the headphone you do provide will sound bad. It will leave a bad taste in the mmouth of the consumer market. They don't know any better and they don't want to spend another $200-1000 for an amp and a Decent CD player or DAC.

If they really wanted to try then they would produce a new headphone with the new colors that would be easy to drive.

If they wanted to do it right they would have made the Q271 or Q272 that would be much better for the consumer market. It's easier to drive and it's closed back which much of the consumer market demands.

I have listened to the Solos, Studios and Pros extensively, and I have to say that the Pros actually sound very good, especially if you want a thumpy low end response. 

I'm calling BS on the claim that you need a $200-1000 amp to power the Q701/K701/K702's. Listening straight out of my Sony E-Series the K702 sounded FANTASTIC. Quiet, but the MP3 player has always ran quieter than most MP3 players, particularly iPods.

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Originally Posted by QuantumCarrot 

Anyone else see there's a Justin Bieber version of the Beats Solo now? Gave me a good laugh when I saw it advertised in a Best Buy ad this weekend...but then it made me feel sad and empty inside.

They're purple D..he just won best artist of the year at the AMAs ..Is something wrong with people ..no offense..his voice cracked when he performed during the beginning
 

This is exactly why Beats sell.  If Justin Bieber can win an award...ANY award...for what he does FOR A LIVING (let's not forget that...the kid gets paid for that stuff first and foremost), it makes absolute sense that a fake-sounding headphone like the Beats can sell 1.3 million units in a year. 

What you listen to, be it a certain artist or a certain headphone, is your business, certainly.  But in a world where the majority of people have no clue about what constitutes talent, there are several metric tons of money to be made in hocking a similarly glossy, substanceless way to listen to said talent. 

When it's all said and done, we all have nobody to blame but ourselves if others don't appreciate the finer things.  Friends don't let friends drive drunk...or listen to Beats.

A troll?  Take a look at my post count and yours.

You have a sad and arrogant opinion about people.  "They don't know any better ..." and "they don't want to spend another $200-100 for an amp ...?"

Why do you think you're so much smarter than they are?  You learned didn't you?  Are you saying no one else but you and me and a few Head-Fier's can learn to apply an amp to a top-of-the-line headphone?  That's sad.

I smell a burn..lol i'm so lame

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Are you a troll or do you have a messed up sense of logic! I fyou can't provide people who do not have any audio equipment a headphone that is decent without it then the headphone you do provide will sound bad. It will leave a bad taste in the mmouth of the consumer market. They don't know any better and they don't want to spend another $200-1000 for an amp and a Decent CD player or DAC.

 

If they really wanted to try then they would produce a new headphone with the new colors that would be easy to drive.

 

If they wanted to do it right they would have made the Q271 or Q272 that would be much better for the consumer market. It's easier to drive and it's closed back which much of the consumer market demands.

A troll?  Take a look at my post count and yours.

 

You have a sad and arrogant opinion about people.  "They don't know any better ..." and "they don't want to spend another $200-100 for an amp ...?"

 

Why do you think you're so much smarter than they are?  You learned didn't you?  Are you saying no one else but you and me and a few Head-Fier's can learn to apply an amp to a top-of-the-line headphone?  That's sad.

Okay then lets role play.

Your a new guy you want a nice set of headphone. You like Quincey Jones. He's got a paoir of headphones out. You buy them then the guy who sold them to you told you that you need to spend another $200 to make them sound okay. What would you think? Also most people who have no experience in this stuff expect Isolation, no leaking, lots of bass, and a whole slew of other things the Q701's don't provide.

If I was that person and I didn't know any of this before hand I wouldn't be happy with my purchase, at all.  Because K701's are not good mass production headphones, at all.

I never said I was smarter, more informed maybe, but smarter no. I also never said I'm against the big name companies such as Harman reaching out for a new market. this was a smart idea by AKG it was just poorly executed. Seeing AKG losing ground in the Audiophile market and in the Studio market only means they will have to bring in revenue from something else. They turned to marketing  f for their next action and have produced something I for one can not agree with.

Oh and post count doesn't mean anything, and it makes you look like an ass for saying that.

LOL  say Monster and fuel the flames.
 

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Originally Posted by xXFallenAngelXx 

I smell a burn..lol i'm so lame

If I didn't care about music as much, I wouldn't want to buy an amplifier. I honestly would want a headphone that can impress me, be comfortable, be easy to drive, be portable, noise cancel/isolation very well, and look good. Monster and Bose complete 6 out of 6 for the average consumer. I'd say they may actually complete 4-5 out of 6 for head-fiers. If they created a headphone that could impress even us on head-fi, it may be the apocalyse

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Are you a troll or do you have a messed up sense of logic! I fyou can't provide people who do not have any audio equipment a headphone that is decent without it then the headphone you do provide will sound bad. It will leave a bad taste in the mmouth of the consumer market. They don't know any better and they don't want to spend another $200-1000 for an amp and a Decent CD player or DAC.

 

If they really wanted to try then they would produce a new headphone with the new colors that would be easy to drive.

 

If they wanted to do it right they would have made the Q271 or Q272 that would be much better for the consumer market. It's easier to drive and it's closed back which much of the consumer market demands.

A troll?  Take a look at my post count and yours.

 

You have a sad and arrogant opinion about people.  "They don't know any better ..." and "they don't want to spend another $200-100 for an amp ...?"

 

Why do you think you're so much smarter than they are?  You learned didn't you?  Are you saying no one else but you and me and a few Head-Fier's can learn to apply an amp to a top-of-the-line headphone?  That's sad.

Okay then lets role play.

 

Your a new guy you want a nice set of headphone. You like Quincey Jones. He's got a paoir of headphones out. You buy them then the guy who sold them to you told you that you need to spend another $200 to make them sound okay. What would you think? Also most people who have no experience in this stuff expect Isolation, no leaking, lots of bass, and a whole slew of other things the Q701's don't provide.

 

If I was that person and I didn't know any of this before hand I wouldn't be happy with my purchase, at all.  Because K701's are not good mass production headphones, at all.

 

I never said I was smarter, more informed maybe, but smarter no. I also never said I'm against the big name companies such as Harman reaching out for a new market. this was a smart idea by AKG it was just poorly executed. Seeing AKG losing ground in the Audiophile market and in the Studio market only means they will have to bring in revenue from something else. They turned to marketing  f for their next action and have produced something I for one can not agree with.

 

 

Oh and post count doesn't mean anything, and it makes you look like an ass for saying that.

Now we resort to cursing and name calling?  BTW, I agree that your post count doesn't mean anything.  Neither does when you joined, either.  It's obvious you only needed a few months to size up the entire AKG company, their marketing strategy, distribution channels, supply lines, and advertising.  I'm failing miserably in the face of that great achievement, so I give up.
 

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LOL  say Monster and fuel the flames.
 

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Originally Posted by xXFallenAngelXx 

I smell a burn..lol i'm so lame

If I didn't care about music as much, I wouldn't want to buy an amplifier. I honestly would want a headphone that can impress me, be comfortable, be easy to drive, be portable, noise cancel/isolation very well, and look good. Monster and Bose complete 6 out of 6 for the average consumer. I'd say they may actually complete 4-5 out of 6 for head-fiers. If they created a headphone that could impress even us on head-fi, it may be the apocalyse

I agree and disagree..just the pricing blows my mind considering what you can get for that kind of money

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Now we resort to cursing and name calling?  BTW, I agree that your post count doesn't mean anything.  Neither does when you joined, either.  It's obvious you only needed a few months to size up the entire AKG company, their marketing strategy, distribution channels, supply lines, and advertising.  I'm failing miserably in the face of that great achievement, so I give up.
 

And we have a winner!