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post #1276 of 1417
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Originally Posted by jono454 View Post

You must have A TON of songs on your 601. Any tips on navigating the device. I find the user interface not too user friendly when wanting to find specific songs.

 

As all the albums are lossless, it gets filled up easily. User interface is real pain. I generally listen to one or two albums a max in a listening session. I don't mix the albums. Hence didn't find that as a hindrance.

post #1277 of 1417
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Originally Posted by matbhuvi View Post

 

As all the albums are lossless, it gets filled up easily. User interface is real pain. I generally listen to one or two albums a max in a listening session. I don't mix the albums. Hence didn't find that as a hindrance.

That's not a bad idea..as my songs are all from random places, they're all over the place. I guess i'll start organizing by album or some sort of folder.

post #1278 of 1417
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Originally Posted by jono454 View Post

That's not a bad idea..as my songs are all from random places, they're all over the place. I guess i'll start organizing by album or some sort of folder.

that's what I do, and no 64gb cards hate me...

 

still I use a 32gb a 16gb and a 4gb card I have a case that carries the hm601 and its sd cards [a smallish case] 

post #1279 of 1417

Had a chance to setup my HM-601 in my car. I have a Alpine CDA-9887 HU, Sinus Live 5 channel amp and HAT Unity speakers. The speakers are running active with the Alpine 988. The sub is also a Sinus Live 10" sealed one. The overall setup is almost neutral. Slightly on the brighter side after i had switched to Active from Passive. I have connected the HM-601 with using a Ai-net aux cable (bit cheapo..need to get a better cable).

 

With the HM-601, i can see a big roll off in highs. A roll off which can't be corrected in EQ. This has a direct impact on the width of the sound stage. But, the quality of mid range and bass is phenomenal. The vocals are sublime. The quantity of bass has increased. The quality is also darn good. It is almost like listening to a setup with tube amp. An unique signature that is beautiful for certain vocal centric genres.

 

I have to admit that i was very disappointed initially with the big roll of in highs. But, over time i recognized that brighter music is like a coffee with extra spoon of sure. It tastes wonderful initially. But, you loose the interest for sugar and slowly you start to enjoy the flavor of coffee without sugar.

 

This is certainly not for all. It has its quirks and apparent weakness. But in the right genre, nothing brings out the emotions out of music like this.

post #1280 of 1417
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Originally Posted by matbhuvi View Post

Had a chance to setup my HM-601 in my car. I have a Alpine CDA-9887 HU, Sinus Live 5 channel amp and HAT Unity speakers. The speakers are running active with the Alpine 988. The sub is also a Sinus Live 10" sealed one. The overall setup is almost neutral. Slightly on the brighter side after i had switched to Active from Passive. I have connected the HM-601 with using a Ai-net aux cable (bit cheapo..need to get a better cable).

 

With the HM-601, i can see a big roll off in highs. A roll off which can't be corrected in EQ. This has a direct impact on the width of the sound stage. But, the quality of mid range and bass is phenomenal. The vocals are sublime. The quantity of bass has increased. The quality is also darn good. It is almost like listening to a setup with tube amp. An unique signature that is beautiful for certain vocal centric genres.

 

I have to admit that i was very disappointed initially with the big roll of in highs. But, over time i recognized that brighter music is like a coffee with extra spoon of sure. It tastes wonderful initially. But, you loose the interest for sugar and slowly you start to enjoy the flavor of coffee without sugar.

 

This is certainly not for all. It has its quirks and apparent weakness. But in the right genre, nothing brings out the emotions out of music like this.

yuppers, it's a nice compliment to bright cans as it fattens em up without making them obese! So A bright lean set up will benifit from the warmth the hm brings, as your aware of :D 

post #1281 of 1417

The headphone jack on mine is too tight a fit for every headphone I have. I've had it longer than 2 years.  Anybody else having this problem?

 

EDIT: Nevermind. Maybe it miraculously expanded within these couple of weeks. All better now.


Edited by dissembled - 5/12/13 at 6:12pm
post #1282 of 1417

is the newest revision (slim 8GB) improved comapring to the old one ? I heard some of hm-601 were noisy - electronic noise from inside that was hearable in the headphones, software bugs etc

 

can hm-601 use 4 pin balanced TRS plug from my current hifiman headphones (separated GNDs) ? anyway, I am gonna use line out and external amps (Lyr, EF-5) to drive my headphones ...


Edited by magicman - 6/23/13 at 10:52pm
post #1283 of 1417
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Originally Posted by magicman View Post

is the newest revision (slim 8GB) improved comapring to the old one ? I heard some of hm-601 were noisy - electronic noise from inside that was hearable in the headphones, software bugs etc

 

can hm-601 use 4 pin balanced TRS plug from my current hifiman headphones (separated GNDs) ? anyway, I am gonna use line out and external amps (Lyr, EF-5) to drive my headphones ...

I miss my hm601... good to see there are a lot of them on the market! 

post #1284 of 1417

My hm601 4GB slim doesn't seem to have any noise issue. With line-out to amp and speakers still sound descent.

post #1285 of 1417
Thought I would let you all know that I am having luck using my 601 with a 128GB card. It must be formatted fat32 not xfat which is a little tricky. I have it full of my ripped (flac) cd's the album section does not work but this is probably an issue with my tags rather than the card. I simply browse to the Album via sd card, this however is also a little annoying as they are listed in order the folders are created not alphabetical. There really should be an option to change the sort order for folders! I guess I will look at my tags at some point but re tagging 128gb of music is not an a great thought.

The brand was PNY SDXC 128gb class10 got on special for $79.99 from amazon
Edited by pendoric - 7/30/13 at 1:34am
post #1286 of 1417
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Originally Posted by pendoric View Post

Thought I would let you all know that I am having luck using my 601 with a 128GB card. It must be formatted fat32 not xfat which is a little tricky. I have it full of my ripped (flac) cd's the album section does not work but this is probably an issue with my tags rather than the card. I simply browse to the Album via sd card, this however is also a little annoying as they are listed in order the folders are created not alphabetical. There really should be an option to change the sort order for folders! I guess I will look at my tags at some point but re tagging 128gb of music is not an a great thought.

The brand was PNY SDXC 128gb class10 got on special for $79.99 from amazon

Oh nice man, that's good to know... and man that's a great deal there on a great DAP with a HUGE Library. Still I used to have a mini case for mine that held a couple of 32gb SD Cards 

post #1287 of 1417
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Originally Posted by pendoric View Post

Thought I would let you all know that I am having luck using my 601 with a 128GB card. It must be formatted fat32 not xfat which is a little tricky. I have it full of my ripped (flac) cd's the album section does not work but this is probably an issue with my tags rather than the card. I simply browse to the Album via sd card, this however is also a little annoying as they are listed in order the folders are created not alphabetical. There really should be an option to change the sort order for folders! I guess I will look at my tags at some point but re tagging 128gb of music is not an a great thought.

The brand was PNY SDXC 128gb class10 got on special for $79.99 from amazon

 

Great advice. I bought the same PNY SDXC 128gb Class 10 on Amazon (although it was closer to $100). I formatted it to Fat32 with guiformat.exe. It is working perfectly with my Rockboxed 601S. I have 110gb of Lame 320kbps files all being accessed perfectly and about 10gb of free space remaining.

 

Thanks!

post #1288 of 1417
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Originally Posted by cooperpwc View Post

Quote:
Originally Posted by pendoric View Post

Thought I would let you all know that I am having luck using my 601 with a 128GB card. It must be formatted fat32 not xfat which is a little tricky. I have it full of my ripped (flac) cd's the album section does not work but this is probably an issue with my tags rather than the card. I simply browse to the Album via sd card, this however is also a little annoying as they are listed in order the folders are created not alphabetical. There really should be an option to change the sort order for folders! I guess I will look at my tags at some point but re tagging 128gb of music is not an a great thought.


The brand was PNY SDXC 128gb class10 got on special for $79.99 from amazon

Great advice. I bought the same PNY SDXC 128gb Class 10 on Amazon (although it was closer to $100). I formatted it to Fat32 with guiformat.exe. It is working perfectly with my Rockboxed 601S. I have 110gb of Lame 320kbps files all being accessed perfectly and about 10gb of free space remaining.

Thanks!

How easy was it to Rockbox your 601? What advantages does it confer?
post #1289 of 1417
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Originally Posted by CJG888 View Post


How easy was it to Rockbox your 601? What advantages does it confer?

Second question first: The advantages to me are too numerous to mention. Most important is gapless playbackbeerchug.gif

 

In more general terms you are going from a B-/C+ interface (Hifiman OF isn't terrible but it isn't great either) to an A+ interface. Rockbox is the best that there is. Years of devotion from an open source community will do that for you.

 

 

As for the first question: It is very easy if you use the...

 

Alternative way

Windows

  • Extract the rockbox build (rockbox-hifimanhm*.zip) on sd card of your device.
  • Download and install PowerISO. Free unregistered version would be enough. Or you can use any analagous program, which could edit image files with FAT filesystem.
  • Open OF image file (HM-601.IMG, HM-801,... ) in PowerISO? program.
  • Copy BASE.RKW file from SYSTEM folder in image to the .rockbox folder on sd card.
  • Replace BASE.RKW in OF image with bootloader.rkw (Rename booloader.rkw to BASE.RKW and replace original BASE.RKW in SYSTEM and SYSTEM00 folders).
  • Save changes and put derived IMG file into internal storage of your player.
  • Reboot your player

 

Just download the files and follow the instructions step by step. All found here:  http://www.rockbox.org/wiki/HifimanPort


Edited by cooperpwc - 8/26/13 at 4:43am
post #1290 of 1417

I did rockbox my HM-601. But, only the stock firmware is loading after the initial rockbox messages. Am i missing something?

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