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isnt there a store in australia that carries woo audio? 
found the dealer's website. 

actually the price is not bad. 

however, now i am leaning to schiit lyr + bifrost combo. i know they should go very well with hd650, skylab reckoned vahalla went well with t1. i assume this combo should be good enough for me for a while. 

Valhalla and Lyr are different beasts with respect to the the T1. The former is a significantly better match with 600 Beyers than the latter (and cheaper too!). The Lyr with the T1, for me, was ... meh.

If you like lush, flowing music with body and volume (not the decibel kind) - the Woo WA2 (or similar OTL amp) is where the magic is. It's an investment, but if you have the T1 and can come up with the cash, it may be a combo you would never part with.
Edited by Pudu - 1/19/13 at 1:51am
post #77 of 148
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Valhalla and Lyr are different beasts with respect to the the T1. The former is a significantly better match with 600 Beyers than the latter (and cheaper too!). The Lyr with the T1, for me, was ... meh.

If you like lush, flowing music with body and volume (not the decibel kind) - the Woo WA2 (or similar OTL amp) is where the magic is. It's an investment, but if you have the T1 and can come up with the cash, it may be a combo you would never part with.

 

 

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post #78 of 148
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Valhalla and Lyr are different beasts with respect to the the T1. The former is a significantly better match with 600 Beyers than the latter (and cheaper too!). The Lyr with the T1, for me, was ... meh.

If you like lush, flowing music with body and volume (not the decibel kind) - the Woo WA2 (or similar OTL amp) is where the magic is. It's an investment, but if you have the T1 and can come up with the cash, it may be a combo you would never part with.

 

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i sent Jason of Schiit an email for his opinion. here is his reply:

 

 

For both headphones(T1 and HD650), either Lyr or Valhalla are good choices. Valhalla will be the more natural, holographic amp, whereas Lyr will be more dynamic and punchy

 

ok, i admit now i am only considering valhalla and WA2 (and a voice in my mind telling me to go for wa2). however, i do appreciate the convenience and efficienty of ss amp. also, valhalla at such as low price point looks great (and easy to handle). on the other hand, wa2 seems very complicated to me. one question, when wa2 is running, does it generate much heat??

 

if i go with wa2, is a DAC still necessary at this stage? i will play flac from my rMBP most of time. btw, i have a small toy Fiio E17.  

post #79 of 148

i think a DAC would be necessary with the WA2. though with the valhalla it would be good as well, especially for getting the most out of your T1. 

 

the WA2 generates some heat, but not too much. the amp runs warm not hot.

post #80 of 148

My favorite amp for the T1 is Lyric Nmode X-HA1, 1bit digital fully balanced amplifier. I dunno whether the X-HA1 is sold outside of Japan. Its sound is 'bass boosted'. Treble is slightly rough by noise shaping procedure during analog to digital (Pulse Density Modulation) conversion. Retail price of X-HA1 is 79,800 JPY.

 

post #81 of 148
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i think a DAC would be necessary with the WA2. though with the valhalla it would be good as well, especially for getting the most out of your T1. 

 

the WA2 generates some heat, but not too much. the amp runs warm not hot.

someone pointed me to WA6 SE. what do u think?

 

another guys gave me a link to the very new wa7. it looks very interesting. compact and nice looking. 

post #82 of 148
You should ask yourself what kind of sound you prefer or are after. T1's tend to let an amp shine through.
post #83 of 148

I also have the T1 too. I'm looking for a solid state amp because I want an accurate and detail sound signature. So, which amp should I get? My budget is 300usd.

 

I'm using Cambridge Audio Dac magic plus as my DAC.

 

I'm quite interested in the Schiit Asgard.


Edited by king8888 - 1/19/13 at 9:05pm
post #84 of 148
The only SS I've used the T1 with is a vintage receiver. Sounds great, but for me the T1's belong with an OTL tube amp.
post #85 of 148
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someone pointed me to WA6 SE. what do u think?

 

another guys gave me a link to the very new wa7. it looks very interesting. compact and nice looking. 

 

haven't heard the WA7 yet, so won't say much. but the WA6-SE is very nice with the T1, though i prefer the WA2. Both pair well with the T1.

post #86 of 148

Does anyone have any experience with ODAC/OAMP with Beyerdynamic T1 or T90?

post #87 of 148

Seeing as I should be receiving my T1's soon, I've been thinking about amping them.  I want to simplify my desktop setup somewhat.  Currently have a dac and little dot 1+ which will not do the T1s justice.  So to avoid having too much stuff, I'm looking at a dac/amp mainly for the T1.  

 

I was considering the Fostex HP-A8C.  It's rated at 700mW@32 ohm.  So I looked at some of the amps people like with the T1.  Vioelectric V200 (2000mW@32ohm) and Meier corda classic (3200mW@32ohm - according to this review: http://www.head-fi.org/products/meier-audio-corda-classic/reviews/5960).  I thought then that maybe the fostex was simply not going to cut it with 600ohm headphones.   But I also looked at the WA2 and that is rated at 310mW@32ohm.

 

Are these ratings done the same?  The WA2 seems to say it has higher output with larger ohm loads.  Is this a property of tube amps and why they are so good at driving high impedance cans?

 

Meier reports 3200mW@32ohm and 160mW@600ohm, where vioelectric report 200mW@32ohm and 570mW@600ohm.   Again, is this just different circuit designs that cause these differences, or differences in measurements?  

 

Is there any way to use measurements to determine whether the fostex will actually drive the T1 properly?

 

Any other recommendations for a dac/amp or am I better off just getting a nice amp?

post #88 of 148

Does anyone else have any experiences with the pairing T1+ Audio-GD Pheonix? Somewhat detailed descriptions would be greatly appriciated.


Edited by Man7rah - 1/31/13 at 4:37am
post #89 of 148

the WA2 does 480mW into 600 ohm and it powers it quite nicely with plenty of extra power. the WA2 provides a max of 640Mw into 300 ohms, its an OTL amp, so it provides much more voltage but less current, which means it works very well with high impedance headphones, though it might not be optimal for lower impedance loads. 

 

the V200 or WA2 are some of the better amps to pair with the T1 at their price point, the soloist is also supposed to be really good.

post #90 of 148

the Soloist and the T1 sound great together....power to spare and the analog sound of the Soloist tames some of the treble on the T1

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