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post #751 of 1135
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Originally Posted by zilch0md View Post

I've joined the club - ordered a DACmini CX with the 1-Ohm mod, today.

 

The DACport LX has made me a CEntrance fan.

 

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Mike

 

Glad I was able to help you out via PM's.  Looking forward to your impressions.

post #752 of 1135
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Originally Posted by HeadphoneAddict View Post

 

Glad I was able to help you out via PM's.  Looking forward to your impressions.

 

Yes, thank you!  

 

And your reviews of the DACmini CX with LCD-2 were very influential.  

 

Mike

post #753 of 1135

does anyone have any idea if the dacmini pairs well with the grado rs1i?

post #754 of 1135

I wonder if it's possible to order a spare top plate of the chassis.

Mine got scratched by my friend's DDC at a local meet...

post #755 of 1135
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Originally Posted by Xenobium View Post

does anyone have any idea if the dacmini pairs well with the grado rs1i?

 

I really liked the pairing of my RS-1 (APS V3 cable) with DACmini at RMAF when the DACmini was first introduced.  Unfortunately, I sold the RS-1 about 3 months before I got my own DACmini, so I didn't get to try it out again.  For two years in a row I loaned those RS-1 to CEntrance for the RMAF show, since the pairing was so much better than with their DT-880 that they'd bring.  The 1st time it was to show off the DACport, and then the next year it was the DACmini if I recall correctly.

post #756 of 1135

I use my SR325 with my DACmini (1 ohm output) and I like the combo very much. It save me on time for not warming up the MAD.  biggrin.gif

post #757 of 1135
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Originally Posted by zilch0md View Post

I've joined the club - ordered a DACmini CX with the 1-Ohm mod, today.

 

The DACport LX has made me a CEntrance fan.

 

biggrin.gif

 

Mike

 

Uhhh...   It's here...   and...   I'm astonished.  

 

I hate first impressions like that, but...  this is unbelievably good.

 

96/24 WAV -> Foobar -> USB -> DACmini CX with 1-Ohm Mod -> Toxic Cables Silver Poison -> LCD-2 rev. 1

 

Keep in mind that the only amps I've ever heard before tonight are the Schiit Lyr, the Meier Stepdance, and the iBasso PB2, so I wish I could say I've been around the block more than I have, but still, this DACmini CX is blowing them all away.  

 

It can't be placebo effect.  I've been missing so much.   

 

Scary hobby, this - the more you spend, the better it gets.  Stop me before I listen to anything nicer.

 

Mike

post #758 of 1135
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Originally Posted by HeadphoneAddict View Post

Glad I was able to help you out via PM's.  Looking forward to your impressions.

 

And thank you again Larry for your very patient and generous responses to all of my questions.  

 

The posts you've made regarding the DACmini CX caught my attention, but I thank you sincerely for all the time you've spent discussing alternatives.  

 

You inspire me to help others.

 

Mike

post #759 of 1135
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Originally Posted by zilch0md View Post

 

Uhhh...   It's here...   and...   I'm astonished.  

 

I hate first impressions like that, but...  this is unbelievably good.

 

96/24 WAV -> Foobar -> USB -> DACmini CX with 1-Ohm Mod -> Toxic Cables Silver Poison -> LCD-2 rev. 1

 

Keep in mind that the only amps I've ever heard before tonight are the Schiit Lyr, the Meier Stepdance, and the iBasso PB2, so I wish I could say I've been around the block more than I have, but still, this DACmini CX is blowing them all away.  

 

It can't be placebo effect.  I've been missing so much.   

 

Scary hobby, this - the more you spend, the better it gets.  Stop me before I listen to anything nicer.

 

Mike

 

My DACmini is fairly comparable to my Stello DA100 Signature feeding my maxed Woo WA6 with upgraded tubes (except with HD800 where the WA6 is better when I roll in the right tubes).  It's still amazing what they can squeeze out of the DACmini for less than 1/2 what I put into the other rig.

post #760 of 1135
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Originally Posted by HeadphoneAddict View Post

 

My DACmini is fairly comparable to my Stello DA100 Signature feeding my maxed Woo WA6 with upgraded tubes (except with HD800 where the WA6 is better when I roll in the right tubes).  It's still amazing what they can squeeze out of the DACmini for less than 1/2 what I put into the other rig.

I feel much the same way. I liked my Dacmini with stock 10 ohm output impedance. I sent it in a couple of months ago for a volume pot upgrade and while there decided to get the 1 ohm mod. I'm glad I did because the sound improved significantly in the treble department. My LCD2 v1 and modded T50RP's sound much better in the upper frequency range. Whether the perceived improvement is due to placebo or if it's real makes no difference to me. It still sounds better to me and has from Day 1. The guys at CEntrance have been responsive, friendly, helpful before and after the sale. 

post #761 of 1135
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Originally Posted by bluemonkeyflyer View Post

I feel much the same way. I liked my Dacmini with stock 10 ohm output impedance. I sent it in a couple of months ago for a volume pot upgrade and while there decided to get the 1 ohm mod. I'm glad I did because the sound improved significantly in the treble department. My LCD2 v1 and modded T50RP's sound much better in the upper frequency range. Whether the perceived improvement is due to placebo or if it's real makes no difference to me. It still sounds better to me and has from Day 1. The guys at CEntrance have been responsive, friendly, helpful before and after the sale. 

 

I have to admit that your testimony, much earlier in this thread, regarding your decision to go for the 1-Ohm output impedance mod was very influential in my decision to order the DACmini CX with that upgrade. It's still burning in, but I want to say at the moment that I am extremely satisfied with the just-right brightness and neutrality/transparency of the DACmini CX with 1-Ohm mod into Toxic Cables Silver Poison and LCD-2 rev.1. 

 

Thank you for sharing the details of your decision-making at that time.  This forum is a wealth of information for anyone willing to dig for it, thanks to articulate contributors like you, Larry, and many others, of course.

 

Mike

post #762 of 1135
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Originally Posted by zilch0md View Post

 

Uhhh...   It's here...   and...   I'm astonished.  

 

I hate first impressions like that, but...  this is unbelievably good.

 

96/24 WAV -> Foobar -> USB -> DACmini CX with 1-Ohm Mod -> Toxic Cables Silver Poison -> LCD-2 rev. 1

 

Keep in mind that the only amps I've ever heard before tonight are the Schiit Lyr, the Meier Stepdance, and the iBasso PB2, so I wish I could say I've been around the block more than I have, but still, this DACmini CX is blowing them all away.  

 

It can't be placebo effect.  I've been missing so much.   

 

Scary hobby, this - the more you spend, the better it gets.  Stop me before I listen to anything nicer.

 

Mike

 

 

Glad you like it!

 

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post #763 of 1135
I'm just wondering, if the 1 ohm mod is so good, why don't Centrance just make it factory default?
Anyone know what the 'side effect' of this mod? Eg. More hiss with IEM? Or?
post #764 of 1135
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Originally Posted by Ksef10 View Post

Glad you like it!

 

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Thanks Ksef10,

 

Here's what I wrote in a PM to HeadphoneAddict, yesterday (an early assessment of the DACmini CX with 1-Ohm mod):

 

 

Quoting myself:

 

How do I like it?   I'm absolutely floored by how good it sounds with the LCD-2!   I'm beginning to wonder if there's a problem with my interconnect cable that I've been using to connect the various sources to either the Stepdance or the PB2.  

 

The DACmini CX is SO much nicer than any chain I've ever heard before!   Of course, with my limited experience, that's not saying much, but still - it's leaps and bounds ahead of anything else I've heard.  It even has better dynamics and more killer bass control and extension than the DACport LX -> 16V iBasso PB2 with aforementioned op-amps.  But it also has greater transparency and resolution than the DACport LX - 15V Stepdance.  I'm absolutely certain of what I'm saying here, on both counts!   But it gets better...  There's a whole new world of imaging and soundstage, separation of instruments, ambiance, and naturalness, as well as detail with smoothness that I've NEVER heard before.  I can't believe how hog-tied my LCD-2 have been.  The LCD-2 has been unleashed with the DACmini CX!  

 

Bells sound like bells!  Drums sound like drums!  Cymbals sound like cymbals.  Vocals sound like vocals.  Everything sounds LIVE.  I can't get over it.  Seriously.  

 

I have been using the iBasso PB2 as a desktop rig, while continuing to use one of my two Stepdances for the lightweight portable rig.   I now have no use for either the DACport LX or the PB2.  I'll be putting those up for sale soon, after giving my friend first shot at the PB2.  Then again, I might sell a Stepdance and keep the PB2, but the DACport LX is history, for sure. [It's redundant to the DACmini.]  

 

I really feel like the fact that the DACmini CX is integrated (DAC + amp) must have something to do with its success.  This business of strapping components together with interconnects, components that weren't designed from the beginning to work with each other, has got to be prone to degradation.

 

Lastly, who needs balanced output?!   Sheesh!  I'm fine with singled-ended, now!

 

 

I'd like to elaborate by saying that where the DACport LX - > 16V-powered PB2 is allegedly putting out 2500mW vs. the DACmini's alleged 1500mW, the DACmini has better dynamics and tighter control of the bass - audible traits you would expect to improve with an increase in power.  

 

When using the 16V PB2 with LME49990s and HA5002s as my desktop amp, I was willfully forfeiting the higher resolutions and more neutral response a PB2 can produce with less powerful op-amp and buffer combinations (i.e. OPA1612s with dummy buffers) - just to enjoy the dynamics and bass control of the LCD-2 that come with more power.  It was a compromise, and having borrowed a Schiit Lyr for about four weeks, last summer, I can say that my use of the PB2 was somewhat like using the lower-resolving, less neutral, but spectacularly powerful, and thus wonderfully dynamic Schiit Lyr, where you can enjoy dynamics and bass control at the expense of resolution - which, in my understanding, is typical of both hybrid and tube amps. There are exceptions, of course.  Read reviews of the Peak/Volcano for an uber-detailed hybrid with fast transients. 

 

On the flip side, if I wanted to enjoy high resolution and spectacular neutrality (the closest I had heard to true transparency), I would reach for the DACport LX -> 15V Meier Stepdance combination, which I primarily used as a portable rig (with the LCD-2).  But again, I did so willfully forfeiting the dynamics and bass that I could only enjoy with the PB2.  Another compromise.

 

Well, you know the punch line, from what I wrote in my PM to Larry - I'm getting the best of both worlds with the DACmini CX with 1-Ohm mod.  It offers an exceptional balance of virtues -  traits that seem to run at odds with each other, normally.  I don't doubt that spending a lot more on a DAC and amp combo might take me to places I can only imagine at the moment, where the balance between power and finesse are just as good or better, and the overall sound quality is somehow more superior still, but for now, the DACmini CX is checking all the boxes like nothing my relatively novice ears have heard before.  

 

Oh, the music!  I actually get little euphoric rushes that take me by surprise from time to time, giggling at just how good this rig sounds.

 

Mike

post #765 of 1135
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Originally Posted by zilch0md View Post

 

Thanks Ksef10,

 

Here's what I wrote in a PM to HeadphoneAddict, yesterday (an early assessment of the DACmini CX with 1-Ohm mod):

 

 

 

I'd like to elaborate by saying that where the DACport LX - > 16V-powered PB2 is allegedly putting out 2500mW vs. the DACmini's alleged 1500mW, the DACmini has better dynamics and tighter control of the bass - audible traits you would expect to improve with an increase in power.  

 

When using the 16V PB2 with LME49990s and HA5002s as my desktop amp, I was willfully forfeiting the higher resolutions and more neutral response a PB2 can produce with less powerful op-amp and buffer combinations (i.e. OPA1612s with dummy buffers) - just to enjoy the dynamics and bass control of the LCD-2 that come with more power.  It was a compromise, and having borrowed a Schiit Lyr for about four weeks, last summer, I can say that my use of the PB2 was somewhat like using the lower-resolving, less neutral, but spectacularly powerful, and thus wonderfully dynamic Schiit Lyr, where you can enjoy dynamics and bass control at the expense of resolution - which, in my understanding, is typical of both hybrid and tube amps. There are exceptions, of course.  Read reviews of the Peak/Volcano for an uber-detailed hybrid with fast transients. 

 

On the flip side, if I wanted to enjoy high resolution and spectacular neutrality (the closest I had heard to true transparency), I would reach for the DACport LX -> 15V Meier Stepdance combination, which I primarily used as a portable rig (with the LCD-2).  But again, I did so willfully forfeiting the dynamics and bass that I could only enjoy with the PB2.  Another compromise.

 

Well, you know the punch line, from what I wrote in my PM to Larry - I'm getting the best of both worlds with the DACmini CX with 1-Ohm mod.  It offers an exceptional balance of virtues -  traits that seem to run at odds with each other, normally.  I don't doubt that spending a lot more on a DAC and amp combo might take me to places I can only imagine at the moment, where the balance between power and finesse are just as good or better, and the overall sound quality is somehow more superior still, but for now, the DACmini CX is checking all the boxes like nothing my relatively novice ears have heard before.  

 

Oh, the music!  I actually get little euphoric rushes that take me by surprise from time to time, giggling at just how good this rig sounds.

 

Mike

 

Mike,

 

Thanks for the report of impressions.  The Dacmini is "Killer" with modded Fostex T50RP's and my LCD2's!

 

Keith

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