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replacing some caps

post #1 of 12
Thread Starter 

hey guys :) i'm in the process of replacing caps in my old amp, though i don't what to do about these:

 

[blue ones]

 

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[red ones]

 

 

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are those film caps? If so then what kind of replacements should i get and also should i look at the same tech specs i did with the electrolytic ones?

 

And one more question about these black rubycon caps:

 

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These are the last electrolytic ones i need to replace, though i have a question about soldering, since i noticed that one of the connectors (on each of them) is soldered to these cables:

 

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Should i also solder one of the connectors on the new caps like that? Thanks :)

post #2 of 12

Why were you replacing them? The red caps look like they may be rebranded Wimas, which would already be fairly ideal in the space provided. If you get boutique film caps to replace them, the form factor is going to be cylindrical and larger, which would be difficult to fit.

post #3 of 12
Thread Starter 

Well i replaced most of the caps, since they were quite cheap, and old ;) hmm.. i guess i'll just leave the film ones alone then.. Any clues on re-solidering those black electrolytic ones? Cheers :)

post #4 of 12

Replace those big power supply caps with some

Nichicons (or similar good quality) rated for power

supply use. Look at the ripple current spec.

Higher is better. You can use a larger capacitance

value as well as long as it still fits. Re-solder the wires

just like they were before. I wouldn't bother to replace

the red and blue film caps, they look pretty good already.

I also noticed some op amps in there. You might be able

to replace those too with newer, better sounding ones.

Make sure you know what they do before you replace them.

 

Good luck with it!

post #5 of 12
Thread Starter 

Thanks :) yeah I have 2 Nichicons here waiting to be thrown in there and they're almost too big hehe ;) but i didn't realize that changing the op-amps will help imporve the sound quality on speakers? I did that on my sound cards though, i thought that's different? Cheers :) By the way, there's a small cap there behind the 2 black caps, rated 1uF and 160V since i can't find any quality ones at the dealers here with these specs, how safe will i be if i replace it with a 2.2uF or 4.7uF one and higher or same voltage cap? Thanks
 

Quote:
Originally Posted by Avro_Arrow View Post

Replace those big power supply caps with some

Nichicons (or similar good quality) rated for power

supply use. Look at the ripple current spec.

Higher is better. You can use a larger capacitance

value as well as long as it still fits. Re-solder the wires

just like they were before. I wouldn't bother to replace

the red and blue film caps, they look pretty good already.

I also noticed some op amps in there. You might be able

to replace those too with newer, better sounding ones.

Make sure you know what they do before you replace them.

 

Good luck with it!


Edited by bacardi - 11/19/10 at 2:59pm
post #6 of 12

I'm not personally familiar with the Rubycon CE's, but generally speaking - I'm not sure replacing those with Nichicon's would be considered an upgrade.  Rubycon makes some of the best capacitors available.  Their only problem is that they don't seem to be distributed very much in this country.  I was sort of hoping that would change now that they're not so tied up making Black Gates.

 

Sort of wondering if your effort on re-capping is misplaced.  It looks like you have a very modern complement of caps.  It's not like there are a bunch of paper electrolytics or wax caps in there just waiting to fail.  In fact, seems like I see a bunch of Muse ES's and FG's in those smaller electrolytics.  Those are pretty much state-of-the-art today. wink.gif


Edited by tomb - 11/19/10 at 4:37pm
post #7 of 12


I think he has already replaced many of the caps...those are the ones you are seeing.

I tried to find some data on the Rubycon CE but I guess they have been out of production

for too long, i came up dry...

 

Quote:
Originally Posted by tomb View Post

I'm not personally familiar with the Rubycon CE's, but generally speaking - I'm not sure replacing those with Nichicon's would be considered an upgrade.  Rubycon makes some of the best capacitors available.  Their only problem is that they don't seem to be distributed very much in this country.  I was sort of hoping that would change now that they're not so tied up making Black Gates.

 

Sort of wondering if your effort on re-capping is misplaced.  It looks like you have a very modern complement of caps.  It's not like there are a bunch of paper electrolytics or wax caps in there just waiting to fail.  In fact, seems like I see a bunch of Muse ES's and FG's in those smaller electrolytics.  Those are pretty much state-of-the-art today. wink.gif

post #8 of 12

I wouldn't feel comfortable saying yes unless I knew what the function of the cap was...

If it is just a filter then you would be safe.

 

If the op amps are in the signal path then they could have a huge effect on the sound.

If they serve some other purpose then just leave them be...
 

Quote:
Originally Posted by bacardi View Post

Thanks :) yeah I have 2 Nichicons here waiting to be thrown in there and they're almost too big hehe ;) but i didn't realize that changing the op-amps will help imporve the sound quality on speakers? I did that on my sound cards though, i thought that's different? Cheers :) By the way, there's a small cap there behind the 2 black caps, rated 1uF and 160V since i can't find any quality ones at the dealers here with these specs, how safe will i be if i replace it with a 2.2uF or 4.7uF one and higher or same voltage cap? Thanks
 

Quote:
Originally Posted by Avro_Arrow View Post

Replace those big power supply caps with some

Nichicons (or similar good quality) rated for power

supply use. Look at the ripple current spec.

Higher is better. You can use a larger capacitance

value as well as long as it still fits. Re-solder the wires

just like they were before. I wouldn't bother to replace

the red and blue film caps, they look pretty good already.

I also noticed some op amps in there. You might be able

to replace those too with newer, better sounding ones.

Make sure you know what they do before you replace them.

 

Good luck with it!

post #9 of 12
Thread Starter 

all those caps out there that you see are replaced by me, most of them were some no-name stuff ;) and yeah that rubycon i checked was discontinued in 1999, my bet is the nichicons i have will be an improvement, here's the datsheet: i have the 80V 10,000uF version http://www.nichicon.co.jp/english/products/alm_larg/pict_f.htm

post #10 of 12
Thread Starter 

I guess i'll just leave it alone till I find a quality replacement with the same stats, and how can i check if the op-amp is in the singal path? Via service manual?
 

Quote:
Originally Posted by Avro_Arrow View Post

I wouldn't feel comfortable saying yes unless I knew what the function of the cap was...

If it is just a filter then you would be safe.

 

If the op amps are in the signal path then they could have a huge effect on the sound.

If they serve some other purpose then just leave them be...
 

Quote:
Originally Posted by bacardi View Post

Thanks :) yeah I have 2 Nichicons here waiting to be thrown in there and they're almost too big hehe ;) but i didn't realize that changing the op-amps will help imporve the sound quality on speakers? I did that on my sound cards though, i thought that's different? Cheers :) By the way, there's a small cap there behind the 2 black caps, rated 1uF and 160V since i can't find any quality ones at the dealers here with these specs, how safe will i be if i replace it with a 2.2uF or 4.7uF one and higher or same voltage cap? Thanks
 

Quote:
Originally Posted by Avro_Arrow View Post

Replace those big power supply caps with some

Nichicons (or similar good quality) rated for power

supply use. Look at the ripple current spec.

Higher is better. You can use a larger capacitance

value as well as long as it still fits. Re-solder the wires

just like they were before. I wouldn't bother to replace

the red and blue film caps, they look pretty good already.

I also noticed some op amps in there. You might be able

to replace those too with newer, better sounding ones.

Make sure you know what they do before you replace them.

 

Good luck with it!


 
post #11 of 12

If you have an aptitude for electronics you can try and follow the signal path

through the circuit by eye. If you have the service manual or schematic, that

would be a big help.

What amp is it?

post #12 of 12
Thread Starter 

it's a vincent sv-129, got tired of the sound it made and i decided to upgrade it, just replaced the transformer caps with 2 nichicons, it's good :)

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