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post #1 of 21
11/17/10 at 4:07pm
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I'm getting (almost) no bass out of the (replacement pair) Turbine Pro-Coppers, and all the sound just sounds congested, sharp and unnatural. At first I thought this was due to my week-long lack of sleep (severe fatigue). but I just tried some freebie Panasonic earbuds and they actually had more bass than the Coppers (Discman D-33, Bass Boost MAX). They better not be defective again.

Got myself some sleeping pills and will take one tonight, then try again tomorrow. Hey... at least I bought the Product Service Plan on these IEMs.

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post #2 of 21
11/17/10 at 4:10pm

Unfortunately it seems that way. One thing I won't describe the Coppers with is bass-shy.

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post #3 of 21
11/17/10 at 4:14pm

Have you considered trying different tips?  It's almost impossible to have a bad fit with the triple flange units that come with it.  They might just be uncomfortable.  But it will give you an idea if its the tips.  I couldn't imagine describing the coppers as light on bass.

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post #4 of 21
11/17/10 at 4:16pm
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Have you considered trying different tips?  It's almost impossible to have a bad fit with the triple flange units that come with it.  They might just be uncomfortable.  But it will give you an idea if its the tips.  I couldn't imagine describing the coppers as light on bass.



Of course. I previously owned the Golds, and then 1st pair of Coppers. I know all the Gel SuperTips, Foam SuperTips, flanges and Sony Hybrids. The first Coppers are bass-bombastic right out of the box with Gel SuperTips, but they broke after a week. Now with this replacement pair, eh... same Gel tips, but way less bass.

Right now I have them plugged on the computer listening to Grooveshark. Definitely more bass and way more natural sound than the D-33. Yeah maybe it's my ears, or the cold. I've been leaving these things by the window all day and they are freezy-cold.

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post #5 of 21
11/18/10 at 4:46pm
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Just went to FutureStop. Brought my Discman with me to make sure the third pair of Coppers aren't defective. Well, they aren't (sonic wise). But they're one of the last CH batch (very big number), and the strain relieves are as stiff as my first pair (CI batch).

Monster's gotta have to improve their QC.

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post #6 of 21
11/18/10 at 5:27pm

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Originally Posted by 3602 View Post

Just went to FutureStop. Brought my Discman with me to make sure the third pair of Coppers aren't defective. Well, they aren't (sonic wise). But they're one of the last CH batch (very big number), and the strain relieves are as stiff as my first pair (CI batch).

Monster's gotta have to improve their QC.

 


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I think my MD's are sounding lop-sided. Very dissapointing to say the least. Does Monster replace with brand new units? Do they cover round shipping too?
Also, the strain relief on my coppers already came off on the right. Considering what I've been going through with MD build issues, there's no way I'm turning these in. They sound perfectly balanced, and the build quality is top notch. Luckily, a drop of adhesive solved the problem; plus they feel rock solid now.


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post #7 of 21
11/18/10 at 5:33pm
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Originally Posted by 3602 View Post

Just went to FutureStop. Brought my Discman with me to make sure the third pair of Coppers aren't defective. Well, they aren't (sonic wise). But they're one of the last CH batch (very big number), and the strain relieves are as stiff as my first pair (CI batch).

Monster's gotta have to improve their QC.

 


+1

I think my MD's are sounding lop-sided. Very dissapointing to say the least. Does Monster replace with brand new units? Do they cover round shipping too?
Also, the strain relief on my coppers already came off on the right. Considering what I've been going through with MD build issues, there's no way I'm turning these in. They sound perfectly balanced, and the build quality is top notch. Luckily, a drop of adhesive solved the problem; plus they feel rock solid now.


 

You're supposed to have the "Monsters Live Forever" Lifetime Guarantee, if it's defective they'll replace it. If You broke them then they'll replace for once.

But... are your MD's lop-sided, or do you think that they are? Reverse the channels just to make sure.

Ah. I'm just happy that I bought the Product Service Plan. Peace of mind.

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post #8 of 21
11/19/10 at 12:34pm
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Originally Posted by 3602 View Post

Just went to FutureStop. Brought my Discman with me to make sure the third pair of Coppers aren't defective. Well, they aren't (sonic wise). But they're one of the last CH batch (very big number), and the strain relieves are as stiff as my first pair (CI batch).

Monster's gotta have to improve their QC.

 


+1

I think my MD's are sounding lop-sided. Very dissapointing to say the least. Does Monster replace with brand new units? Do they cover round shipping too?
Also, the strain relief on my coppers already came off on the right. Considering what I've been going through with MD build issues, there's no way I'm turning these in. They sound perfectly balanced, and the build quality is top notch. Luckily, a drop of adhesive solved the problem; plus they feel rock solid now.


 

You're supposed to have the "Monsters Live Forever" Lifetime Guarantee, if it's defective they'll replace it. If You broke them then they'll replace for once.

But... are your MD's lop-sided, or do you think that they are? Reverse the channels just to make sure.

Ah. I'm just happy that I bought the Product Service Plan. Peace of mind.


I dont have a program that will swap the channels, but comparing them to my copper's, I can definitely tell a difference. It sounds quieter overall, and they deliver less punch on the left (it sounds like its a few DB's attenuated than the right). I checked the mesh for "organic residue", cleaned the tips, everything I could think of; sadly, we have a no go :(

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post #9 of 21
11/19/10 at 3:34pm

Loss of bass is often associated with a poor seal. The bass signal is what flies out the leak. To see if the problem is with your seal or with the earphones, take the free Audio Seal Test from Sensaphonics:

 

http://www.sensaphonics.com/test/index.html

 

You can do this online, or download the file for later use.

 

An excellent diagnostic tool; works with any IEMs.

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post #10 of 21
11/19/10 at 4:16pm
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Originally Posted by aleki View Post

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Originally Posted by 3602 View Post

Just went to FutureStop. Brought my Discman with me to make sure the third pair of Coppers aren't defective. Well, they aren't (sonic wise). But they're one of the last CH batch (very big number), and the strain relieves are as stiff as my first pair (CI batch).

Monster's gotta have to improve their QC.

 


+1

I think my MD's are sounding lop-sided. Very dissapointing to say the least. Does Monster replace with brand new units? Do they cover round shipping too?
Also, the strain relief on my coppers already came off on the right. Considering what I've been going through with MD build issues, there's no way I'm turning these in. They sound perfectly balanced, and the build quality is top notch. Luckily, a drop of adhesive solved the problem; plus they feel rock solid now.


 

You're supposed to have the "Monsters Live Forever" Lifetime Guarantee, if it's defective they'll replace it. If You broke them then they'll replace for once.

But... are your MD's lop-sided, or do you think that they are? Reverse the channels just to make sure.

Ah. I'm just happy that I bought the Product Service Plan. Peace of mind.


I dont have a program that will swap the channels [...]


 

Don't need. Wear them reversed.

Seriously just contact Monster.

That said, the left earbud (Coppers) came apart today. The chrome cap came loose from the copper body. Two drops of ethyl cyano-thing fixed it. But still. Monster has them same QC issues with the Beats headphones. I mean the Turbine Pros sound awesome (both Gold and Copper), but come on, build quality!

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post #11 of 21
11/19/10 at 4:31pm

^^ I actually have(probably should have mentioned that). No matter which side I swap it to, the left driver sounds less punchy. I tried switching the tips, did not change the sound at all confused.gif

I will be contacting mosnter for a replacement pair

 

PS: thanks for the link Jack. Will have to test when I get home duggehsmile.png

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post #12 of 21
11/19/10 at 4:48pm
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^^ I actually have(probably should have mentioned that). No matter which side I swap it to, the left driver sounds less punchy. I tried switching the tips, did not change the sound at all confused.gif

I will be contacting mosnter for a replacement pair

 

PS: thanks for the link Jack. Will have to test when I get home duggehsmile.png



Do you really mean the left driver unit, or your left ear?

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post #13 of 21
11/19/10 at 4:51pm
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^^ I actually have(probably should have mentioned that). No matter which side I swap it to, the left driver sounds less punchy. I tried switching the tips, did not change the sound at all confused.gif

I will be contacting mosnter for a replacement pair

 

PS: thanks for the link Jack. Will have to test when I get home duggehsmile.png



Do you really mean the left driver unit, or your left ear?



 the driver, as in the physical piece that I can detach from my ear biggrin.gif

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post #14 of 21
11/19/10 at 5:06pm
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Quote:
Originally Posted by aleki View Post

^^ I actually have(probably should have mentioned that). No matter which side I swap it to, the left driver sounds less punchy. I tried switching the tips, did not change the sound at all confused.gif

I will be contacting mosnter for a replacement pair

 

PS: thanks for the link Jack. Will have to test when I get home duggehsmile.png



Do you really mean the left driver unit, or your left ear?



 the driver, as in the physical piece that I can detach from my ear biggrin.gif


 

Right, then. Contact Monster. Good luck!

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post #15 of 21
11/19/10 at 6:26pm

The few times that imbalance has occurred for me it was due to driver flex.  I had to try to get a tight seal w/ the side in question and used the vacuum to pop it back into place.  Wasn't too sever and only happened a few times.  I would avoid inserting any Monster Pro IEMs straight in.  That's one reason they want you to pull up on your upper ear and release the canal back down on top of the tip so pressure has a chance to equalize as you insert them.  I hope you get the issue fixed.

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