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post #931 of 3917
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Matt, I have the Lyr, Soloist and the Mojo. Which amp pairs best with the 4, IYO ?

Thanks

 

If price is not important, I'd take the mojo. I spent a good bit of time with the he4 on the lyr and it was good, but still not giving the he4 all the power it could use. 

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Originally Posted by kothganesh View Post


Matt, I have the Lyr, Soloist and the Mojo. Which amp pairs best with the 4, IYO ?

Thanks

All three have the juice - The Soloist may sound the best as the Mojo may be a tab bit on the bright side.  With the Lyr you can tube roll to fit your needs..

post #933 of 3917
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If price is not important, I'd take the mojo. I spent a good bit of time with the he4 on the lyr and it was good, but still not giving the he4 all the power it could use. 

 

What Matt said.  I never had a chance to listen to the Lyr.  I'm just afraid the Mojo might be on the bright side, where the Soloist may tame it a bit.  The Soloist cost more thou.

post #934 of 3917

Project Ember is a greatly overlooked amp. Enough power for the K1000 and HE-6 with adjustable output impedance, gain, and the ability to roll many different tubes due to its auto bias. All at a price much less than the Lyr, Mojo and Soloist. Not as cheap as the Emotiva though, which still stands as the best value for hungry hungry headphones.


Edited by Thujone - 11/17/13 at 6:18am
post #935 of 3917

I have the least amount of experience with the mojo and the most with the lyr. I'd take Prep's advice about the mojo. 

 

The lyr was pretty good like I said. But I felt like I was still pushing it a bit on the volume pot. I'm not a loud listener and usually listen around 9-10. With the lyr and the he4, I was typically around 11-12. I did not roll many tubes to work on the pairing of the he4 and lyr. It would be worth the effort to find the best match. I used Amperex Orange Globes fwiw. 

 

I didn't spend money on tubes for that pairing because after plugging the he4 into the Pioneer sx1280 I never looked back. The he4 just loved the power of the vintage gear. This older gear has a warm "tube" sound and made a lovely pairing with the he4. I used the tone controls (-2 treble and +2 bass) and it was just about perfect to me. 

 

There was no need for speaker taps as the hp output stage uses the same amp as the speaker line does. 

 

Vintage Pioneer's can often be had for cheap if you're willing to put in the time with them and are not afraid of some simple DIY. If this is not your thing, then I'd look to get the Emotiva. 

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Originally Posted by MattTCG View Post
 

I have the least amount of experience with the mojo and the most with the lyr. I'd take Prep's advice about the mojo. 

 

The lyr was pretty good like I said. But I felt like I was still pushing it a bit on the volume pot. I'm not a loud listener and usually listen around 9-10. With the lyr and the he4, I was typically around 11-12. I did not roll many tubes to work on the pairing of the he4 and lyr. It would be worth the effort to find the best match. I used Amperex Orange Globes fwiw. 

 

I didn't spend money on tubes for that pairing because after plugging the he4 into the Pioneer sx1280 I never looked back. The he4 just loved the power of the vintage gear. This older gear has a warm "tube" sound and made a lovely pairing with the he4. I used the tone controls (-2 treble and +2 bass) and it was just about perfect to me. 

 

There was no need for speaker taps as the hp output stage uses the same amp as the speaker line does. 

 

Vintage Pioneer's can often be had for cheap if you're willing to put in the time with them and are not afraid of some simple DIY. If this is not your thing, then I'd look to get the Emotiva. 

Matt, Preproman,

 

thanks. What I meant was that I OWN the Lyr, Soloist and the Mojo.I have consistently paired the 4 with the Lyr only (both are at the office) but not with the other two. I saw your post on the Emotiva and the Pioneer amps. That got me thinking. I'm horrible with DIY so I will be looking at the Emotiva.

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Okay, cool. It's my opinion that if you don't try a nice vintage receiver, like a Pioneer or Sansui, you're missing out. But take it with a grain of salt. I'm very biased towards the old steel. :atsmile:

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I have the least amount of experience with the mojo and the most with the lyr. I'd take Prep's advice about the mojo. 

The lyr was pretty good like I said. But I felt like I was still pushing it a bit on the volume pot. I'm not a loud listener and usually listen around 9-10. With the lyr and the he4, I was typically around 11-12. I did not roll many tubes to work on the pairing of the he4 and lyr. It would be worth the effort to find the best match. I used Amperex Orange Globes fwiw. 

I didn't spend money on tubes for that pairing because after plugging the he4 into the Pioneer sx1280 I never looked back. The he4 just loved the power of the vintage gear. This older gear has a warm "tube" sound and made a lovely pairing with the he4. I used the tone controls (-2 treble and +2 bass) and it was just about perfect to me. 

There was no need for speaker taps as the hp output stage uses the same amp as the speaker line does. 

Vintage Pioneer's can often be had for cheap if you're willing to put in the time with them and are not afraid of some simple DIY. If this is not your thing, then I'd look to get the Emotiva. 
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My experience with the Lyr and the 4 are eerily similar to yours. Same tubes and same listening levels. By the way, I followed the 4 with the HE 500 and this HP just blew the 4 away( IMO of course). That's when I started thinking about the Emotiva.
However I have a friend who loves vintage Pioneers and I'll see if I can enlist his help.
Thanks man.
post #939 of 3917
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There was no need for speaker taps as the hp output stage uses the same amp as the speaker line does. 

 

 

That's one of the good things about most Vintage amps.  No need for extra cables.

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Vintage amps are very underrated here at head-fi. I get the reasons why. If you buy a pre 80s amp for cheap it will require work. But its fun!
post #941 of 3917

Yep. Using old Harman Kardon with very nice results but gonna try very well regarded Dynaco ST35 soon to be paired with HE5LE.

post #942 of 3917
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Originally Posted by MattTCG View Post
 

Okay, cool. It's my opinion that if you don't try a nice vintage receiver, like a Pioneer or Sansui, you're missing out. But take it with a grain of salt. I'm very biased towards the old steel. :atsmile:

Matt,

 

you're bad for my wallet. Just ordered the Emotiva mini X. Now, pray, point me to some vintage receivers. Why stop at one ? :biggrin:

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For good vintage receivers, I'd look at the Pioneers. You can often find locally at thrift stores, flea markets ect. I don't know if you have the equivalent of Craigslist, but local internet based "garage sale" type of website is where I get them most often. The x50/x80 series are what you want to look for. They both have wood cabinets with silver faces. The x80 series adds black metered gauges which I think looks pretty cool.

 

Start with the sx-650. Then look for sx750/850/950/1050/1250 (there are model just like this that end in 80 that add the meters). There is a pretty nice jump each time you go up a model. Once you hit the sx1050, you'll be in TOTL territory. There will usually be some basic servicing required like cleaning of the pots and switches with deoxit. There are plenty of threads here to help with that procedure. 

 

Additionally, these receivers/amps will drive speakers beautifully and give you a nice tuner. Half the fun is the hunt for me. Here are a few of my finds.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

gL!!

post #944 of 3917
Matt, those look awesome. I saw a few of those on eBay but held off since I was unsure about the right model(s).
I will have to import these (sigh, import duties are 30% + to India).
Thanks a lot and BTW, do you own them all ?
post #945 of 3917

Still own most of them. If you have a specific item listed on ebay just shoot me a pm and I'll let you know what I think.

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