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post #916 of 3917
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Originally Posted by cheuh View Post
 

 

Thanks for the impressions. It's a shame that they are so hard to drive... because I would love to try these out if they beat out the HE-400s.

 

What's the minimum / low cost amp requirement to drive these?

 

Oh and I was wondering how does the mid range for vocals compare to your HD580 and AKG K702 65th AEs?

 

I think that one of the best amps for the money would be the Emotiva a100. It's on sale right now for $169 with FREE shipping. IMO opinion the power and finesse just can't be touched in it's category.

 

http://shop.emotiva.com/collections/amplifiers/products/a100

 

Of course you'd need a speaker tap cable/adapter. Brian at BTG makes these very reasonably. The lry, while a very good amp, won't bring the he-4 to the same level that the Emotiva will. 

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How much does the speaker tap cable/adapter cost?

post #918 of 3917

I can't remember the exact cost. Somewhere around 40-50 $. 

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Originally Posted by cheuh View Post

How much does the speaker tap cable/adapter cost?
You can always just get an extension cable and cut it off, or, just cut the stock cable off and tie right down!
post #920 of 3917
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Originally Posted by MattTCG View Post
 

 

I think that one of the best amps for the money would be the Emotiva a100. It's on sale right now for $169 with FREE shipping. IMO opinion the power and finesse just can't be touched in it's category.

 

http://shop.emotiva.com/collections/amplifiers/products/a100

 

Of course you'd need a speaker tap cable/adapter. Brian at BTG makes these very reasonably. The lry, while a very good amp, won't bring the he-4 to the same level that the Emotiva will. 


There's the Topping TP60  which I discovered thanks to spurxiii in the HD600 thread and can be had for a price pretty close to the Emotiva with free shipping too: 

 

http://www.parts-express.com/pe/showdetl.cfm?partnumber=310-326

 

I was wondering if anybody had tried both and had an opinion (or something) ? Thanks in advance.

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Originally Posted by hemipowered007 View Post


You can always just get an extension cable and cut it off, or, just cut the stock cable off and tie right down!

 

So, I could plug my single ended headphone cable into an extension cable with a 6.3mm female and cut off the other end to have bare wires which go straight to the speaker taps? And this will work?

 

I thought that the cable had to be balanced (meaning the ground wires don't touch, right) all the way through?

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Doesn't have to be balanced with the emotiva
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As a massive metal and rock fan reading this thread has really interested me especially considering their price. My main stuff to listen to in order would be say EDM > Acoustic > Rock > Metal > Classical > Jazz > other genres. I've very much got the EDM mastered to the best I feel I can get with my TH900, T1 has the current bill for classical + acoustic. I'm looking at other options for any genre in the future like the HD800, Oppo etc, as long as I can stay able to keep buying hp's without money trouble I'll keep looking at other things - even just for collector purposes. The HE-4 is interesting as far as price/performance goes judging from this thread - I'd like to try it.

 

I think next month I will buy one just to try out. I'll see how amping goes before I commit to something more powerful yet - I think my current amp can drive it up to something like 122DB. I'm on the page of objectivity in this regard so we'll see how it goes in practise.

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Originally Posted by Jareb View Post
 


There's the Topping TP60  which I discovered thanks to spurxiii in the HD600 thread and can be had for a price pretty close to the Emotiva with free shipping too:

 

http://www.parts-express.com/pe/showdetl.cfm?partnumber=310-326

 

I was wondering if anybody had tried both and had an opinion (or something) ? Thanks in advance.

That is using the Tripath TA2022 chipset which can be used for single ended headphones but the Tripath TA2024 and TA2020 are bridged push-pull amps and can not be used for single ended headphones which share a common ground. The Emotiva mini is on sale right now and it is cheaper and well built and has a Five Year Limited Warranty. I am using the Emotiva with two cables with single ended  stereo 1/4 female jack and the other 4-pin XLR female as well.


Edited by john57 - 11/16/13 at 8:30pm
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Greetings!

 

I've recently purchased HE-4 but I'm a bit disappointed. These headphones definitely lack bass punch, it's too thin comparing to Creative Aurvana Live. Also the highs are bright for my taste (though it's not a problem after some EQing). And the last shortcoming - poor dynamics. I just don't fell the agility HE-4 are famous for. I guess it's all because of my audio sources - Asus Xonar Essence ST and ODAC\O2. Yeah, I know HE-4 are power-hungry. Should I get Schiit Lyr or something else suitable for HE-4 to solve occured problems? Does burn-in make sense?

 

P.S. HE-4 resolution is stunning and vocals sound so natural!


Edited by GigArt - 11/17/13 at 5:12am
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Greetings!

 

Asus Xonar Essence ST anв ODAC\O2. Yeah, I know HE-4 are power-hungry. 

 

:eek: no wonder..

 

Better off with one of these if you want to keep the price pretty low:  You can still use the ODAC..

 

http://shop.emotiva.com/collections/amplifiers/products/a100

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If it's worth buying... What about Schiit Lyr? As I understand, it should tame bright highs, make the bass punchy and give great dynamics. 

 

As for Emotiva, I've read about it. Price is nice! Don't know if they are shipping to Russia though. What is the cheapest way of connecting HE-4 to a-100? 

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Originally Posted by preproman View Post
 

 

:eek: no wonder..

 

Better off with one of these if you want to keep the price pretty low:  You can still use the ODAC..

 

http://shop.emotiva.com/collections/amplifiers/products/a100

 

He is giving you the truth here. You are WAY underpowered on your amp. The he4 is one of the most power hungry hp's on the planet, just taking a back seat to the he6. If you want to keep the he4, I'd get the a100 and some speaker taps. The transformation will be staggering.

 

Email Brian at BTG Audio for the cable.

 

gL!!

post #929 of 3917
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Originally Posted by MattTCG View Post

He is giving you the truth here. You are WAY underpowered on your amp. The he4 is one of the most power hungry hp's on the planet, just taking a back seat to the he6. If you want to keep the he4, I'd get the a100 and some speaker taps. The transformation will be staggering.

Email Brian at BTG Audio for the cable.

gL!!

Matt, I have the Lyr, Soloist and the Mojo. Which amp pairs best with the 4, IYO ?

Thanks
post #930 of 3917
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Originally Posted by MattTCG View Post
 

 

He is giving you the truth here. You are WAY underpowered on your amp. The he4 is one of the most power hungry hp's on the planet, just taking a back seat to the he6. If you want to keep the he4, I'd get the a100 and some speaker taps. The transformation will be staggering.

 

Email Brian at BTG Audio for the cable.

 

gL!!

Thanks!

What if I'll purchase custom adapter from BTG (6,3 mm female -> banana plugs) for the stock HE-4 cable? hemipowered007 said a100 doesn't need a cable to be balanced.

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