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post #856 of 3917

There is no doubt that the he-4 is a fine hp and does well with rock and fast paced music. Slap on a pair of jergpads by modular and plug into the right amp and it will rock your world. :veryevil:

post #857 of 3917
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Originally Posted by MattTCG View Post

There is no doubt that the he-4 is a fine hp and does well with rock and fast paced music. Slap on a pair of jergpads by modular and plug into the right amp and it will rock your world. very_evil_smiley.gif
IMO, the 4 outdoes the 400 for rock. That is the only genre I listen to. I've listened to it the 4 now on Asgard 1 (gave up very quickly), Lyr with Orange globes (sounds very good and I still use it at work), and with the Mjolnir at home. The 4 scales very well.
post #858 of 3917

he-500 for metal/ rock/ gothic vs he-4 ? hahahahahahaha, nice joke, he-500 is too slow, too smooth, too polite, too beautiful for these genres, you need ultra clear attack, speed, nice soundstage but without losing the punch, that dirt and "raw, brutal power" which HE-4 delivers in spades

 

I still remember when I heard electric guitars listening to some smashing pumpkins album and I was shocked how real it sounded (thanks to upper mids many instruments have that sparkle), I could not believe, seriously - that kind of realism is hard to beat, I was terrified

 

don't be mistaken with V shape - actually it is indeed but nothing like using software EQ and other crap

 

it's just native nature of this HP and this is great especially when you see characteristic of human ear (low and high freq are way down below the rest of the spectrum, HE-4 nicely compensates that and has nothing in common with software EQ in V shape, it just sounds very natural)

 

he-500 is nice for floating in other ethereal dimension and nice HP, I consider it as my 2nd HP next to the HE-4 as a completely different beast for other  mood / genre (it's just the way he-400 should sound but it never will)

 

you should listen to this HP using some nice high resolution / reference dac with some 24/96 files (not some idiot vinyl rips but native ones) - never heard such difference since I tried HE-4 (because of its ultra revealing nature, very detailed sound)

 

I think that on great amp HE-4 might be very close to HE-6, too close ...

 

MattTCG,

 

"The lyr while a good amp for the he-4 is not the end all/be all with the he-4. Honestly, if you consider that the amping requirements for the he-4 are essentially the same as the he-6...then it becomes clear that most of us have not heard the best of the he-4. It requires a small nuclear power plant to get 100% from the he-4. And yes, I know what the specs say, but just bear with me for a moment. "

 

- that's why I ordered emotiva a-100 x-mini (15W for 50 ohms), I will see what it's worth and what's the synergy between them

 

- and I agree - he-4 has many faces, can sound completely different on a different amps, I have written about that many times


Edited by magicman - 11/6/13 at 10:37pm
post #859 of 3917
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Originally Posted by MattTCG View Post
 

There is no doubt that the he-4 is a fine hp and does well with rock and fast paced music. Slap on a pair of jergpads by modular and plug into the right amp and it will rock your world. :veryevil:

By the way, a big plug for both Matt and MLE for their posts in convincing me to get the HE-4. Spades of enjoyment with classic rock both with the Lyr and the Mojo. I am waiting for the jergpads by modulor. Anytime now, Ryan :popcorn:

post #860 of 3917
Well I'm doing my best to obtain it immediately! Just need a guaranteed sale first...then its he 4 and possibly emotiva mini x if my pioneer doesn't sound right. I'm thinking the aune t1 as the dac because its tube dac. Would that be a good choice? Maybe a recommendation for a dac? Hrt music streamer ii?
post #861 of 3917

u really should try LYR for rock/metal with HE-4, you can plug anything as a source and it will sound great, seriously - checked it out (even galaxy S2 or azalia codec sounded amazing, for me overall HE-4 character is strictly amp dependent)

 

these dacs u mentioned are strict on budget I guess ...

post #862 of 3917
Maybe down the road a bit
post #863 of 3917
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Originally Posted by MattTCG View Post
 

I'm not the best for specific comparisons with rock between these two hp's. I listen mostly to jazz and pop. I do listen to some rock and for rock I'd pick the he-4 every time. The speed, clarity and instrument separation seem to be better suited for rock on the he4. 

 

The he500 with those nice lush mids work better for vocal-centric music. Female jazz vocalist sound better on the he500. Diana Krall, Patricia Barber, Norah Jones are better on the he500. For classic rock, ie Pink Floyd Led Zeppelin, the he-4 will be better. 

 

Hope this helps. 

 

Very well said Matt.  

post #864 of 3917

I have just powered up my new emotiva a-100 and HE-4, oh boy what an amp, first notes and I already know it is mighty as hell, very refined and so effortless, no hiss under any conditions (when there is no music and there is quiet in my room very slight hiss starts at about 1 o'clock but that's with my ultra sensitive hearing for any noise/hiss/buzzing etc so this is really great - I will never go for that volume + when there is music playing it would be undetectable anyway), volume range when using 2,5V rms level output from dac is at about 8-10 o'clock but the power can be felt immediately - the same impression like listening to the LYR, it is less bright than EF-5 which is very good for HE-4, very neutral

 

no sign of distortion because of running out of power, compression effect or clipping with high dynamics peak, 8-10 o'clock is like on Lyr's full power, so this is a freaking little monster amp

 

it is actually better to switch to 1.25V rms (usable range is then from 9-12 o'clock so I can skip some slight channel imbalance at the beginning of the pot about 7-8 o'clock and have wider volume range)

 

damn this amp might be nice with HE-6 indeed pumping some power and should be amazing combo with HE-500


Edited by magicman - 11/7/13 at 9:56am
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Give better speaker amps a listen.
post #866 of 3917

I can tell now that low sensitivity hifimans are made for full size speaker amps, these are not the toys ;]

post #867 of 3917
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Originally Posted by magicman View Post
 

I have just powered up my new emotiva a-100 and HE-4, oh boy what an amp, first notes and I already know it is mighty as hell, very refined and so effortless, no hiss under any conditions (when there is no music and there is quiet in my room very slight hiss starts at about 1 o'clock but that's with my ultra sensitive hearing for any noise/hiss/buzzing etc so this is really great - I will never go for that volume + when there is music playing it would be undetectable anyway), volume range when using 2,5V rms level output from dac is at about 8-10 o'clock but the power can be felt immediately - the same impression like listening to the LYR, it is less bright than EF-5 which is very good for HE-4, very neutral

 

no sign of distortion because of running out of power, compression effect or clipping with high dynamics peak, 8-10 o'clock is like on Lyr's full power, so this is a freaking little monster amp

 

it is actually better to switch to 1.25V rms (usable range is then from 9-12 o'clock so I can skip some slight channel imbalance at the beginning of the pot about 7-8 o'clock and have wider volume range)

 

damn this amp might be nice with HE-6 indeed pumping some power and should be amazing combo with HE-500

 

I would love to hear more of your impressions comparing the Emotiva, Lyr, and EF-5. 

 

I was thinking of getting another EF-5 since I used to own one and enjoyed it. But trying something new sounds nice; the Lyr. What's deterring me from getting the Emotiva is that I don't feel like getting/modifying a cable to be able to use it. Also, the Emotiva probably wouldn't pair so nicely with any future dynamic headphones that I would get.

post #868 of 3917

heres a question i dont seem to have seen addressed here. How is the "open" and airy sound compared to the he400? Because that is something the 400 absolutely amazes me with, and if the he4 is on par, or even somewhat less, I am even more excited. Im getting these no matter what, just really trying to sell off things first,

post #869 of 3917
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Originally Posted by Voohoo View Post
 

What's deterring me from getting the Emotiva is that I don't feel like getting/modifying a cable to be able to use it. Also, the Emotiva probably wouldn't pair so nicely with any future dynamic headphones that I would get.

Yes it Can! My Emotiva Mini can sure drive my dynamic headphones in single ended or balanced just fine as well.

post #870 of 3917

I will post some more impressions as soon as I try some other sources ...

 

but still after what I've heard so far can tell EF-5 has its own strong and unbeatable points, this is very specific amp - you can like it or hate it

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