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post #796 of 2563
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Originally Posted by Voohoo View Post

 

Oh dear. I had mine on low gain around 9 or 10 o'clock! 

 

I'm starting to think that orthos aren't for me. I get a feeling they don't shine unless you're listening loud. However, my eardrums are quite prone to fatigue so my loud listening sessions last only several minutes.


I guess orthos start to really sing when driven with some power - you get some real details, authority and bottom end, IMHO these are not for quiet listening ...

 

remember that used volume depends on your source output level ! having something like 1V rms vs 2,5V rms requires completely different volume to achieve the same SPL from the amp

 

even 2W from ef-5 is nothing for he-4 (Lyr has 6W and it has to be cranked at about 2-3 o'clock to get amazing drive for some serious listening), there is no sign of fatigue, this is distortion free, open air type of sound, very natural in my opinion comparing to something like grado where I couldn't take them more than 1 hour of listening even at mid volume level having some nasty ringing in my ears (never again)


Edited by magicman - 8/4/13 at 3:00am
post #797 of 2563

IMO...

 

Serious listening rarely happens 2-3 on the volume pot. You might be having a great time, rocking out, but then I suppose this comes down to your definition of "serious listening." My point is with the right amp, even the hard to drive he-4 can have all the dynamics that think you are referring to at low listening levels. 

 

I rarely listen to the he-4 over 10:00...11:00 at the most, but I also have a damn good amp. The right amp will give you what you're looking for at most any volume level. 

 

The biggest mistake that most people make is assuming that the amp they have will be enough for the he-4 when it's usually not. You can get away with less amp for most hp's, even the he500 series, but not the he-4 and he-6. While the he-6 is certainly tougher to drive, these two hp's are certainly in the same ballpark on amp requirements and can usually be driving from the same amp. 

 

I often listen to different genres of jazz on the he-4 and usually at soft to medium levels. It is fantastic!! So, I would say that the he-4 can be a very enjoyable hp for soft to medium levels when amped properly. 

 

my 2c...

post #798 of 2563

for me required sound pressure level on headphones depends strictly on genre (I won't be listening rock/metal/gothic quietly on he4, that would be a mistake but something like small jazz band at night - hell yeah !)

 

like I said it depends also on your source output level, for instance having 1V rms you can easily go almost max volume on lyr driving he4, many recordings have average recording level much lower than recordings (MFSL, ECM, COLUMBIA, CHESKY etc) which have been mixed/mastered during the loudness war (passed through hard compressor, where there is near 0dB level)

 

it all depends ...


Edited by magicman - 8/5/13 at 10:50am
post #799 of 2563

I thought that I'd share a quick pad review of the jergpads by Modular that I posted elsewhere since I'm using them for the he-4.

 

Just wanted to make a few comments on the new jergpads crafted by Modular.

 

Let me preface my comments by saying that while I did try the pads with the he400, I primarily will use the new pads with the he-4. 

 

The first thing that I noticed about the pads is the craftsmanship. The mod is executed wonderfully well from an aesthetics point of view. The appear factory made and very much like a pair of velours until you look more closely. Everything is included for the bass mod and mine came with extras as well. I had the pads on in just a few minutes. The application of the bass mods took a little longer but was easy enough and the materials included were excellent. 

 

Do they work? The first thing that you notice with the pads is the comfort. It's just exceptional. I can't ever imagine going back to the stock pleathers just for the comfort of the new pads alone.  The change in the sound signature works well for the both the he400 and the he-4. The tizz is alleviated from the he400. The V shape signature of the smoothed out and makes it a more enjoyable listen. 

 

Does the bass mod work?  No question. There is more weight and punch without question. Not bloomy and not loose...just punches harder. 

 

Are the pads worth the cost? Honestly, I wondered this same question myself when I ordered them. The answer is yes...they are easily worth this price. 

 

What doesn't work? Honestly, I can't come up with anything that would improve on the execution of this mod. I would recommend them to everyone with an He400, he-4 and he500. 

post #800 of 2563
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Originally Posted by MattTCG View Post

I thought that I'd share a quick pad review of the jergpads by Modular that I posted elsewhere since I'm using them for the he-4.

 

Just wanted to make a few comments on the new jergpads crafted by Modular.

 

Let me preface my comments by saying that while I did try the pads with the he400, I primarily will use the new pads with the he-4. 

 

The first thing that I noticed about the pads is the craftsmanship. The mod is executed wonderfully well from an aesthetics point of view. The appear factory made and very much like a pair of velours until you look more closely. Everything is included for the bass mod and mine came with extras as well. I had the pads on in just a few minutes. The application of the bass mods took a little longer but was easy enough and the materials included were excellent. 

 

Do they work? The first thing that you notice with the pads is the comfort. It's just exceptional. I can't ever imagine going back to the stock pleathers just for the comfort of the new pads alone.  The change in the sound signature works well for the both the he400 and the he-4. The tizz is alleviated from the he400. The V shape signature of the smoothed out and makes it a more enjoyable listen. 

 

Does the bass mod work?  No question. There is more weight and punch without question. Not bloomy and not loose...just punches harder. 

 

Are the pads worth the cost? Honestly, I wondered this same question myself when I ordered them. The answer is yes...they are easily worth this price. 

 

What doesn't work? Honestly, I can't come up with anything that would improve on the execution of this mod. I would recommend them to everyone with an He400, he-4 and he500. 

 

You can order these pads "complete" now?

post #801 of 2563

Modular is making them in groups. The first set just shipped out. I believe that he is taking orders on the second batch. 

post #802 of 2563
Quote:
Originally Posted by MattTCG View Post

I thought that I'd share a quick pad review of the jergpads by Modular that I posted elsewhere since I'm using them for the he-4.

Just wanted to make a few comments on the new jergpads crafted by Modular.



 



Let me preface my comments by saying that while I did try the pads with the he400, I primarily will use the new pads with the he-4. 



 



The first thing that I noticed about the pads is the craftsmanship. The mod is executed wonderfully well from an aesthetics point of view. The appear factory made and very much like a pair of velours until you look more closely. Everything is included for the bass mod and mine came with extras as well. I had the pads on in just a few minutes. The application of the bass mods took a little longer but was easy enough and the materials included were excellent. 



 



Do they work? The first thing that you notice with the pads is the comfort. It's just exceptional. I can't ever imagine going back to the stock pleathers just for the comfort of the new pads alone.  The change in the sound signature works well for the both the he400 and the he-4. The tizz is alleviated from the he400. The V shape signature of the smoothed out and makes it a more enjoyable listen. 



 



Does the bass mod work?  No question. There is more weight and punch without question. Not bloomy and not loose...just punches harder. 



 



Are the pads worth the cost? Honestly, I wondered this same question myself when I ordered them. The answer is yes...they are easily worth this price. 



 



What doesn't work? Honestly, I can't come up with anything that would improve on the execution of this mod. I would recommend them to everyone with an He400, he-4 and he500. 



now I can't wait to get home and assemble mine for a listen on my he-5le. great packaging job too.
post #803 of 2563

Please let me know your thoughts - I have the same model.

post #804 of 2563

A bit off topic but,

 

I ended up going with a Burson Audio HA 160 for my HE-4. This thing is fire guys. My first Quality amp and i am impressed.

post #805 of 2563

Just wanted to chime and let this information be known. The he-4 with the Pioneer sx-1280, bifrost uber is truly a sublime mind blowing experience. The old Pioneer just seems to have the right amount of juice to wake up the he-4 and make them sing. Bump the bass up just +2 and you'll feel your molars loosen and love every moment of it. ksc75smile.gif

post #806 of 2563

^^^ Headphone out or the speaker taps?^^^

post #807 of 2563

HP output. Uses the same output stage as the primary line for the speakers, as does most of the totl Pioneers. 

post #808 of 2563

I finally decided to equalize my HE-4 a bit. The midrange and highs are toned down a couple notches using Electri-Q so I listen a bit higher on the volume pot. The bass presence is awesome now. The overall sound is so much meatier with just some small adjustments! Before I equalized I would find, at times, the high end to be a little too hot, so I listened at lower volume or otherwise I would suffer from fatigue easily. Now, everything sounds just right. Getting and feeling that power in the bass while the highs still have the HE-4's signature energetic shininess. I'm now drooling over the thought of these powered through an EF-5.


Edited by Voohoo - 9/5/13 at 4:45pm
post #809 of 2563

Could you share a pic/graph of your EQ?

post #810 of 2563

 

Like I said, just the mids and highs pushed down. I did this instead of bumping the low end up to avoid distortion/clipping/whatever, and also so I could travel higher on the volume pot.

 

Whenever I'm not too lazy, I would like to do a proper EQ for the HE-4...

http://www.head-fi.org/t/615417/how-to-equalize-your-headphones-advanced-tutorial-in-progress

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