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post #781 of 3093

lyr might be great combo with bifrost, just make sure you have some analitycal, fast and detailed tubes knowing lyr's "tube character" :D

 

I suggest brand new electro-harmonix 6922 from current production, matched - it was great sounding match with he4, with no hint of brightness, with amazing soundstage and depth, saturated, fat sound with great bass and power that perfectly matched detailed and fast nature of he4

post #782 of 3093

The lyr is certainly good with the he-4. Many of the vintage receivers are also good. I have heard the Emotiva stuff is excellent especially if you're willing to try speaker taps.

 

http://shop.emotiva.com/collections/amplifiers/products/xpa100

post #783 of 3093
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Originally Posted by MattTCG View Post

The lyr is certainly good with the he-4. Many of the vintage receivers are also good. I have heard the Emotiva stuff is excellent especially if you're willing to try speaker taps.

 

http://shop.emotiva.com/collections/amplifiers/products/xpa100

 

Wow Matt - those are mono blocks - so you'll need two, thus the price would increase.  They have other 2 channel options as well.

post #784 of 3093

Oops...my b. Linked the wrong one sorry.

post #785 of 3093

that monoblock certainly is impressive. and at this point, i think i'm leaning towards a discrete solid state amp... but 800$ is a bit out of my price range, unless i want to eat ramen for the next month. i was planning on about a week and a half! biggrin.gif.

 

i think i'd like to get the lyr, or some fully transistor amp. this may change when i get a chance to listen to some vintage receivers.

 

im worried that the tubes in the lyr will cloud the he-4 detail and impact. is this an issue? orthos are my main focus, any headphone upgrade for me will most likely be the HE-500 or HE-5LE.

 

edit: how about the asgard 2? should be a noticeable upgrade over my PPA...


Edited by kchapdaily - 7/31/13 at 6:40pm
post #786 of 3093

lose impact with lyr ? :D you have got to be kidding me here, drum kick will smash you but there is a bit mid-bass that is always present just like with many tube amps that adds more body (or produces analog-like sound) to overall presentation, soundstage is amazing too (as well as imaging) and that would be all

 

in all other aspects ef-5 wins hands down for me, clarity, details, mids, tonality, speed and transients, bass is amazing too but there is no mid-bass emphasized like on Lyr, there is amazing sub-bass and detailed / textured bass with nice punch though, piano harmonics and details of the piano sound just out of this world while on Lyr just like a bit blurred no matter the tubes, it just doesn't have that sparkle and attack (too many information missed thanks to super smooth sound and emphasized mid-bass + mids are not so revealling like on ef-5)

 

I think I can't describe this better


Edited by magicman - 8/1/13 at 6:21am
post #787 of 3093

Do you listen Hifimans with Sansui 9090 through headphone output or speakers output?

post #788 of 3093

Headout output for me. Uses the same amp as for the speakers.

post #789 of 3093

I believe its the same quality only less power as its made through resistors? And while orthodynamic HPs are not sensitive to damping factor it causes very good listening experience. Am I right?

post #790 of 3093

That's about it...

post #791 of 3093

I have to say Sansui looks great, also little bit newer models. Ill have to look into it:

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bBg_88PP7dA

post #792 of 3093
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Originally Posted by magicman View Post

lose impact with lyr ? :D you have got to be kidding me here, drum kick will smash you but there is a bit mid-bass that is always present just like with many tube amps that adds more body (or produces analog-like sound) to overall presentation, soundstage is amazing too (as well as imaging) and that would be all

 

in all other aspects ef-5 wins hands down for me, clarity, details, mids, tonality, speed and transients, bass is amazing too but there is no mid-bass emphasized like on Lyr, there is amazing sub-bass and detailed / textured bass with nice punch though, piano harmonics and details of the piano sound just out of this world while on Lyr just like a bit blurred no matter the tubes, it just doesn't have that sparkle and attack (too many information missed thanks to super smooth sound and emphasized mid-bass + mids are not so revealling like on ef-5)

 

I think I can't describe this better

fair enough. i read somewhere that tubes wont have the impact of solid state. thats my experience with hybrid vs solid state. i think i may have to go fully solid state, i dont want to give up detail and clarity for more body. he-4 has lots of that already. i might just go with a softer upgrade into an asgard 2 then see where i feel like going from there.

post #793 of 3093

After reading the last several posts, I'm seriously wanting a Sansui. I think my FiiO E9 is lacking in some way but I don't know what. I just don't FEEL it with the E9, ya know? I miss my EF-5.

post #794 of 3093
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After reading the last several posts, I'm seriously wanting a Sansui. I think my FiiO E9 is lacking in some way but I don't know what. I just don't FEEL it with the E9, ya know? I miss my EF-5.

 

yeah, I know what you mean, ef-5 has something unique, I sold all my other amps and bought ef-5 again (+ I think stock fullmusic 12au7 tube is best sounding tube for this amp, it seems Fang Bian perfectly knows what to choose), I am still surprised how good it sounds with he-4 though it has to be in high gain configuration and almost max volume, but hey - it really rocks, it has authority, tremendous resolution and tonality, even at max volume there is no hint of distortion or running out of juice

 

I have never enjoyed music so much in my whole life, this combo is extra cheap comparing to many rigs before with dynamic headphones (which are totally useless for me these days)

 

I will check this combo out with audio-gd nfb-1.32 in the near future and let you know how it sounded


Edited by magicman - 8/3/13 at 3:13am
post #795 of 3093
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...with he-4 though it has to be in high gain configuration and almost max volume...

 

Oh dear. I had mine on low gain around 9 or 10 o'clock! 

 

I'm starting to think that orthos aren't for me. I get a feeling they don't shine unless you're listening loud. However, my eardrums are quite prone to fatigue so my loud listening sessions last only several minutes.

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