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post #2341 of 3093
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Originally Posted by .Sup View Post

Ok so after two weeks of listening to a vintage Yamaha receiver I can say I am in audio nirvana with HE-4..
The setup is the following: a PCM1704UK dac > vintage Yamaha amp > HE-4 with HM5 pads.

I urge everyone to try the HM5 pads, at 12.45€ they are as cheap as it gets and quality surpasses Hifimans by a mile.

Just thought I'd share. Btw the setup is quite budget except for the DAC. But I gather with a 8741 Wolfson you could get similar great results at a lower price.

 

You should write a more precise comparison to Hifiman pleathers or velours... What's better for you may not be better for others - so it would be nice to know what exactly you find better about them and why.

 

I have a personal experience with HM5 pads and while I find them superior in terms of comfort (very very nice comfort level), they are not angled (and it's not possible to make them angled AFAIK).

 

Are they tougher than Hifiman pleathers (I cant remember but I think they are similarly squashy => less tough than Hifiman velours or Audeze leathers)? And how do they influence sound of HE-4 in comparison to Hifiman pleathers?


Edited by Ron12 - 6/22/14 at 2:56am
post #2342 of 3093
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Originally Posted by Ron12 View Post

You should write a more precise comparison to Hifiman pleathers or velours... What's better for you may not be better for others - so it would be nice to know what exactly you find better about them and why.

I have a personal experience with HM5 pads and while I find them superior in terms of comfort (very very nice comfort level), they are not angled (and it's not possible to make them angled AFAIK).

Are they tougher than Hifiman pleathers (I cant remember but I think they are similarly squashy => less tough than Hifiman velours or Audeze leathers)? And how do they influence sound of HE-4 in comparison to Hifiman pleathers?
Yeah sorry, am so ecstatic about the sound I forgot about the details.

The HM5 pads don't need to be angled as they are so squashy they fit my head perfectly (enwrap it) so at the back they are thicker, at the front thinner because they adapt to the head. Perfect imo. I went with my fingers around the pads while I had headphones on my head and there is no opening, very tightly sealed. I did put the thick Hifiman inner rings in the pads so my ears are farther away and it makes bass more pronounced. What I like about these they don't really change the sound, everything that HE-4 produces goes through them.
Hifiman pleather tamed the treble down but are slightly muddier, very smooth though and have a bigger opening, Hifiman velours were too bright for me, more open or airy though but uncomfortable.
Also with velours I sensed lack of midrange and with pleather slightly lack of treble. With these its so very balanced. Perfect bass, midrange and treble. But this is my taste.
Edited by .Sup - 6/22/14 at 3:09am
post #2343 of 3093
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Yeah sorry, am so ecstatic about the sound I forgot about the details.

The HM5 pads don't need to be angled as they are so squashy they fit my head perfectly (enwrap it) so at the back they are thicker, at the front thinner because they adapt to the head. Perfect imo. I went with my fingers around the pads while I had headphones on my head and there is no opening, very tightly sealed. I did put the thick Hifiman inner rings in the pads so my ears are farther away and it makes bass more pronounced. What I like about these they don't really change the sound, everything that HE-4 produces goes through them.
Hifiman pleather tamed the treble down but are slightly muddier, very smooth though and have a bigger opening, Hifiman velours were too bright for me, more open or airy though but uncomfortable.
Also with velours I sensed lack of midrange and with pleather slightly lack of treble. With these its so very balanced. Perfect bass, midrange and treble. But this is my taste.

 

Thanks a lot, very informative!

post #2344 of 3093
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Originally Posted by .Sup View Post

Ok so after two weeks of listening to a vintage Yamaha receiver I can say I am in audio nirvana with HE-4..
The setup is the following: a PCM1704UK dac > vintage Yamaha amp > HE-4 with HM5 pads.

I urge everyone to try the HM5 pads, at 12.45€ they are as cheap as it gets and quality surpasses Hifimans by a mile.

Just thought I'd share. Btw the setup is quite budget except for the DAC. But I gather with a 8741 Wolfson you could get similar great results at a lower price.

I've got the NVX "extra comfort" angled pads that are basically the same as the HM5 pads. I can try em out at some point. My problem is I almost always break the black ring when swapping pads... There's gotta be a trick!
post #2345 of 3093
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Originally Posted by .Sup View Post

Ok so after two weeks of listening to a vintage Yamaha receiver I can say I am in audio nirvana with HE-4..
The setup is the following: a PCM1704UK dac > vintage Yamaha amp > HE-4 with HM5 pads.

I urge everyone to try the HM5 pads, at 12.45€ they are as cheap as it gets and quality surpasses Hifimans by a mile.

Just thought I'd share. Btw the setup is quite budget except for the DAC. But I gather with a 8741 Wolfson you could get similar great results at a lower price.

 

ooooh PCM 1702UK Dac, that's a sexy sounding chip :3

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Originally Posted by mrscotchguy View Post


I've got the NVX "extra comfort" angled pads that are basically the same as the HM5 pads. I can try em out at some point. My problem is I almost always break the black ring when swapping pads... There's gotta be a trick!

There is no trick :/ I hate those stupid rings, all of mine have at least ONE crack...

post #2346 of 3093
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Originally Posted by mrscotchguy View Post

I've got the NVX "extra comfort" angled pads that are basically the same as the HM5 pads. I can try em out at some point. My problem is I almost always break the black ring when swapping pads... There's gotta be a trick!
Hmm I wouldn't be surprised if materials used are different on yours and mine. Ive had two different kind of HFM velour pads in terms of softness. I had no problem with the ring as the plastic was softer and I bent it almost on half when I was fitting them inside the pads. Mine were very flexible.
post #2347 of 3093

Giving the lack of supply for headphone amps in my country, Chile I've been thinking of the Audio-gd NFB 15.

 

What do you guys think of this dac/amp for 250+50(shipping) usd??

post #2348 of 3093
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Originally Posted by escobar090 View Post
 

Giving the lack of supply for headphone amps in my country, Chile I've been thinking of the Audio-gd NFB 15.

 

What do you guys think of this dac/amp for 250+50(shipping) usd??

DOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO ET

 

also my father had his first Ear Gasm, playing him some Classical Spanish Guitar, on my HE 4 

post #2349 of 3093

My nuforce usb-spdif converter will be here tomorrow, cant wait to see if this fixes this damn static issue thats been plaguing my he-4 sessions....

post #2350 of 3093
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Originally Posted by hemipowered007 View Post
 

My nuforce usb-spdif converter will be here tomorrow, cant wait to see if this fixes this damn static issue thats been plaguing my he-4 sessions....

 

Static issues? Could you describe it further? Maybe someone could help you to solve it...?

post #2351 of 3093

Just a brief update to my previous post about different pads with HE-4... (original post can be seen here: http://www.head-fi.org/t/522157/hifiman-he-4-impressions-thread/2160#post_10591782)

 

I gave all 3 sets of pads I have at my possesion a good listen again with the HE-4... And I must say that there is something about each set. Hifiman pleather pads sound the most forgiving and natural (in terms of tonality), Hifiman velours offer the most solid and hard-hitting subbass along with slightly recessed mids and a bit more detailed, airy and open sound (more treble) in comparison to pleather pads, and Beyer 990 pads somewhat pushes the sound signature and sense of ultimate openness of the Hifiman velour set even further (while retaining the neutral bass response of Hifiman pleathers)...

 

I was maybe a bit too harsh about Beyer pads + HE-4 synergy... There is definitely something positive about this combo, as mentioned before. But, and it is a significant but, I still don't find these pads to be a great match with HE-4 for long-term listening. It can be addictive and fun at first (the openness, the hyperdetail) but you get fatigued because of the artificial and rather harsh treble after a while... And you start to realise there is something significantly off in terms of tonality as well. I still hear something "beyerish" in them...

 

Hifiman velours are, as I said before, equally great as my favourite set, Hifiman pleather pads... It just depends on what kind of sound you want to achieve. I personally find the way the velours pronounce subbass nice and addictive... But after a while, I subjectively consider it a little overwhelming - it's just not neutral... and you can hear it with real instruments. Treble is airy, detailed and a bit harsher than with pleathers... But it's fine as long as you are a fan of analytical sound signature and don't prefer to listen loud. Velours subjectively sound a slightly little darker than Beyer pads due to more present subbass and very slightly less present treble. I find treble of Hifiman velours more natural than with Beyer velours... But I find the bass of Beyer pads more natural than the bass of Hifiman velours. Mids? I would say the same.

 

Hifiman pleathers are my favourite pair of pads for the HE-4 so far... And I realised it immediately after spending several hours with both velour sets. Once I put the pleathers on again (even though I just wanted to check something, not to switch back completely), I immediately realised that this is a more correct frequency response - letting the HE-4 to sound more diverse, versatile. Headphones immediately became more responsive to what song or genre I am playing at the moment. It seems like both velour sets give HE-4 a certain flavour which is always present... Regardless what is playing at the moment. I consider the pleathers as a more "get out of the way" type of pads, at least with HE-4... And at least IMHO. They are not as airy or hyperdetailed though.

 

So yeah, my prefered combination is still the same: Hifiman pleather pads + felt inside the pads. But I am looking forward to purchase the new Hifiman pads... I hope as soon as possible!


Edited by Ron12 - 6/24/14 at 4:05pm
post #2352 of 3093
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Originally Posted by Ron12 View Post
 

Just a brief update to my previous post about different pads with HE-4... (original post can be seen here: http://www.head-fi.org/t/522157/hifiman-he-4-impressions-thread/2160#post_10591782)

 

I was maybe a bit too harsh about Beyer pads + HE-4 synergy... There is definitely something positive about this combo, as mentioned before. But, and it is a significant but, I still don't find these pads to be a great match with HE-4 for long-term listening. It can be addictive and fun at first (the openness, the hyperdetail) but you get fatigued because of the artificial and rather harsh treble after a while... And you start to realise there is something significantly off in terms of tonality as well. I still hear something "beyerish" in them...

 

:3 thanks for that, I prefer the "Beyerish" sound of the HE 4 with the 990 pads, the pads give the sound signiture a great sense of tactility, and push the upper mids and treble a bit, I got the HE 4 as an upgrade to the DT 880 so, you can imagine I prefer that some what bright an almost cold [ish] beyer sound

 

although I don't find the treble to be niether harsh nor artificial, but that's ofc my opinion and I'm sure you guys know I like rather birhgt headphoens

post #2353 of 3093
Well the usb to spdif adapter didn't work for a damn on my system, now have 50 bucks from amazon, those shurw alcantra pads are lookin nice
post #2354 of 3093

im trying to find the hifiman male connectors that are actually on the headphone, cant find them anywhere, all i can find is the smcs that are on the cable itself. Any help hifiman peoples?

post #2355 of 3093
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Originally Posted by hemipowered007 View Post
 

im trying to find the hifiman male connectors that are actually on the headphone, cant find them anywhere, all i can find is the smcs that are on the cable itself. Any help hifiman peoples?

 

Try to contact Hifiman team, they should be able to help you... customerservice@head-direct.com

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