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post #2326 of 3917
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Originally Posted by Mshenay View Post
 

ya I'd like a pic of that scratch as well 

 

also... the winner...

 

HE 4!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

I find the LCD 2 Fazor to dark for Jazz, too much body on the low mids for brass instruments, I've become a little snobbish with my Jazz Music, and have started to HIGHLY prefer Vinyl Masters for me 40-60s jazz over the Original CD masters and the new "re-masters" that said, I've found that in general the Vinyls are mastered a little more warmly, 

 

that aside, CD or Vinyl rip, the LCD 2 Fazor are too dark 

 

From my experience, LCD-2s only work well for certain genres or even subgenres... It's not a versatile headphone. And I agree with what you previously posted - LCD-2 are not good for low-level listening... You need to listen rather loud with them.

post #2327 of 3917
Is it safe to assume that tuning a dark phone is easier than a reference or flat phone? Or is that thinking wrong?
post #2328 of 3917
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Originally Posted by Soundsgoodtome View Post

Is it safe to assume that tuning a dark phone is easier than a reference or flat phone? Or is that thinking wrong?

 

How do you mean tuning them... You mean modding them or EQing them? If yes than I would assume it's easier to use felt (for example) to damp treble frequencies than trying to raise them... Or it's less invasive to EQ down certain frequencies than trying to make them louder which could introduce distortion from drivers and cause clipping of the signal.

 

I would personally, in the best case, buy headphones with quality bass and mids + slightly elevated upper mids and treble... Because it's definitely possible to work with >1khz content better than with <1khz content (it's of course an approximation)... And it's easier to reduce than add.


Edited by Ron12 - 6/19/14 at 6:20am
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I know i do not have a proper amp to drive the HE-4 (iBasso D7) but is it normal to hear distortion at a higher volume? I don't know how to describe it but at higher volumes sounds like a plastic bag is being wrapped around my head or something like that.

post #2330 of 3917
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Originally Posted by escobar090 View Post
 

I know i do not have a proper amp to drive the HE-4 (iBasso D7) but is it normal to hear distortion at a higher volume? I don't know how to describe it but at higher volumes sounds like a plastic bag is being wrapped around my head or something like that.

eww that could be the sound of your amp clipping, seeing as the HE 4 at higher volumes shouldn't distort to much, but if your amp which isn't powerful enough to drive them is being pushed to its max, then yea you might get that sound

 

amps provide headphones with watts, a combonation of Amps and Volts, when you crank the volume you get more volts, and there is a point at which you start losing amps to gain more volts

 

IF IF IF you can, get an iBasso PB1, it's a pretty damned powerful amp, and it can be had for around $80 used! It powered my HE 400 without any issue [on low gain!] So if you can get it, on High Gain it should do the HE 4 some more justice, then when U can afford it grab your self a Balanced Cable and HiRose adapter for the HE 4, for around $200 total [Price for the HE 4 Balanced Cable, the Adapter and a used PB1] you'll have a pretty powerful amp and one that sounds pretty good to :3 

post #2331 of 3917
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Originally Posted by Mshenay View Post
 

eww that could be the sound of your amp clipping, seeing as the HE 4 at higher volumes shouldn't distort to much, but if your amp which isn't powerful enough to drive them is being pushed to its max, then yea you might get that sound

Totally....like, EWW


Edited by Soundsgoodtome - 6/19/14 at 5:04pm
post #2332 of 3917
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Totally....like, EWW

lawl 

post #2333 of 3917
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Originally Posted by Mshenay View Post
 

eww that could be the sound of your amp clipping, seeing as the HE 4 at higher volumes shouldn't distort to much, but if your amp which isn't powerful enough to drive them is being pushed to its max, then yea you might get that sound

 

amps provide headphones with watts, a combonation of Amps and Volts, when you crank the volume you get more volts, and there is a point at which you start losing amps to gain more volts

 

IF IF IF you can, get an iBasso PB1, it's a pretty damned powerful amp, and it can be had for around $80 used! It powered my HE 400 without any issue [on low gain!] So if you can get it, on High Gain it should do the HE 4 some more justice, then when U can afford it grab your self a Balanced Cable and HiRose adapter for the HE 4, for around $200 total [Price for the HE 4 Balanced Cable, the Adapter and a used PB1] you'll have a pretty powerful amp and one that sounds pretty good to :3 

Thank you Mshenay!

 

I knew i couldn't get the best of the HE4 without getting an amp but i got them anyway, i know they have potential 

post #2334 of 3917
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Originally Posted by escobar090 View Post
 

Thank you Mshenay!

 

I knew i couldn't get the best of the HE4 without getting an amp but i got them anyway, i know they have potential 

Yea it's no big deal, the first time I heard clipping was with my DT 880 600 ohm out of my Cell Phone. lol I cranked the volume up and it sounded horrific, 

 

either way witha 32v swing the pb2 is a nasty portable amp, I recommend saving for one if you can. On low gain and dummy buffers [the buffers increase the output voltage] my pb2 still drives the HE 4 to ear spilting levels, ofc I run out of head room pretty fast but no cliping, if you get one with standard OPs and Buffers installed, on Meduim gain SE out it should drive the HE 4 nicely! 

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If anyone is interested, my NFB12 will be on the selling block soon. I've come to realization that I shouldn't really have 2 DACs for the HE4, although it sounds damn good with the HE4 (directly and feeding a Project Ember) and its dual Wolfson D/A chips. @32OHMS power is is about 2.5Wpc which should put the HE4's 38OHms around 2Wpc.

I will say that the NFB12 is a FANTASTIC match for the HE4 with it's warmth and details at an unbelievable price. I'd like to see if anyone is interested in the HE4 thread first before going classifieds. PM me for details!


Edited by Soundsgoodtome - 6/19/14 at 5:41pm
post #2336 of 3917
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Originally Posted by Soundsgoodtome View Post
 

If anyone is interested, my NFB12 will be on the selling block soon. I've come to realization that I shouldn't really have 2 DACs for the HE4, although it sounds damn good with the HE4 (directly and feeding a Project Ember) and its dual Wolfson D/A chips. @32OHMS power is is about 2.5Wpc which should put the HE4's 38OHms around 2Wpc.

I will say that the NFB12 is a FANTASTIC match for the HE4 with it's warmth and details at an unbelievable price. I'd like to see if anyone is interested in the HE4 thread first before going classifieds. PM me for details!

I second this Sale, I first of all love my Audio GD Dac/Amp I think it sounds lovely, and on that basis I'll recommend this :3

 

That being said though,  good luck with sale man :D 

post #2337 of 3917

anyone know what the warranty on the he4 is? I bought mine in november 13 from headamp, Im narrowing down an issue right now and hoping its not the hp, but if it is, i need to know if ill have any coverage at all.

post #2338 of 3917
1 Year but even after that they'll help you for a fee.
post #2339 of 3917

sweet, thats what i thought but wasnt 100%. Wonder if it matters that ive tor them apart

post #2340 of 3917
Ok so after two weeks of listening to a vintage Yamaha receiver I can say I am in audio nirvana with HE-4..
The setup is the following: a PCM1704UK dac > vintage Yamaha amp > HE-4 with HM5 pads.

I urge everyone to try the HM5 pads, at 12.45€ they are as cheap as it gets and quality surpasses Hifimans by a mile.

Just thought I'd share. Btw the setup is quite budget except for the DAC. But I gather with a 8741 Wolfson you could get similar great results at a lower price.
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