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post #2221 of 3917
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Originally Posted by Ron12 View Post

 

3) Schiit Lyr 2 =/= Schiit Lyr. Don't recommend a product to someone without really knowing it.The

The Lyr 2 is very similar to the original's topology. They just changed some of the power supply characteristics and added the gain switch circuit.

post #2222 of 3917

so when can we expect those new hifiman pads? I havnt been reading the other threads lately

post #2223 of 3917
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3) Schiit Lyr 2 =/= Schiit Lyr. Don't recommend a product to someone without really knowing it.

uhh yea it does, the Schiit Lyr 2 will most certianly sound rather consistent to the Lyr, if not a step above.  if the Lyr was good we can safely assume the Lyr 2 is better, the guys at Schiit don't just MAKES changes for the hell of it, consistancy is a big part of their offerings, and it's safe to assume the magic that the orignal Lyr had is present in the Lyr 2, in fact the Lyr 2 is boasting a blacker background, cleaner power and a gain switch, so the improvements over the orignal Lyr don't seem to be including any sonic changes, rather they are cleaning up an already sonically pleasing amp

 

It would b kin to, taking two cuts of meat, a Choice tBone and a preuim, both have the same flavor, with only a differeance in texture. If you liked the Choice your going to REALLY love the Preuim, so if Mad Lust has heard the orignal Lyr,  I'm willing to bet the Lyr 2 offers the same sound with some improvements. Much in the way that a Choice tBone and a Preuim compare. 

post #2224 of 3917
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Originally Posted by Mshenay View Post

uhh yea it does, the Schiit Lyr 2 will most certianly sound rather consistent to the Lyr, if not a step above.  if the Lyr was good we can safely assume the Lyr 2 is better, the guys at Schiit don't just MAKES changes for the hell of it, consistancy is a big part of their offerings, and it's safe to assume the magic that the orignal Lyr had is present in the Lyr 2, in fact the Lyr 2 is boasting a blacker background, cleaner power and a gain switch, so the improvements over the orignal Lyr don't seem to be including any sonic changes, rather they are cleaning up an already sonically pleasing amp

It would b kin to, taking two cuts of meat, a Choice tBone and a preuim, both have the same flavor, with only a differeance in texture. If you liked the Choice your going to REALLY love the Preuim, so if Mad Lust has heard the orignal Lyr,  I'm willing to bet the Lyr 2 offers the same sound with some improvements. Much in the way that a Choice tBone and a Preuim compare. 

I'm going to have to agree with you on this one... If there aren't any major changes, it cannot sound worlds different (right?). The again, we're a group discussing the sound difference swapping pads or removing the grill can make. Some would argue that changing even a single capacitor, and the whole sound changes! evil_smiley.gif

People get a bit too quick to judge. It's an expensive hobby, full of buyers remorse, but try not to let the fear of suggesting a product get in the way of a good story.

I'm no Schiit Head, but the Lyr 2 is pretty tempting. Just wish Schiit would get it together and make a balanced Lyr...
post #2225 of 3917
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I'm going to have to agree with you on this one... If there aren't any major changes, it cannot sound worlds different (right?). The again, we're a group discussing the sound difference swapping pads or removing the grill can make. Some would argue that changing even a single capacitor, and the whole sound changes! evil_smiley.gif

People get a bit too quick to judge. It's an expensive hobby, full of buyers remorse, but try not to let the fear of suggesting a product get in the way of a good story.

I'm no Schiit Head, but the Lyr 2 is pretty tempting. Just wish Schiit would get it together and make a balanced Lyr...

gawd yes, but they are making a balanced tube amp... which might come in at around $1000 or so :/

 

and I'm not a schiit head but reading through Jasons story and having heard the Vali... I might soon be a Schiit Head [and I'm a proud owner of an Audio GD amp/dac] 

post #2226 of 3917
They're claiming IEMs to speakers, I'd say feature wise that's pretty big. Where's before you better have an ortho or high impedance phone. One amp from IEMs to speakers, that's crazy talk.
post #2227 of 3917
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Originally Posted by Soundsgoodtome View Post

They're claiming IEMs to speakers, I'd say feature wise that's pretty big. Where's before you better have an ortho or high impedance phone. One amp from IEMs to speakers, that's crazy talk.

well the gain switch, and hopefully a nice series of resitors or something else should greatly help regulate it's voltage swing, although I think they changed it from class a to ab... maybe... let me confirm that 

post #2228 of 3917
The noise floor on my old Schiit was just too much. I think I'm one of the few people not all that satisfied with my Schiit Gear. I'm almost dissuaded from purchasing them, but a $500 Balanced Lyr would be something I could see getting. On the other hand, a tubed next tier Schiit is not on my agenda, even though it will kill it here on HeadFi.

We should probably get back on topic...

I think I found some of those squishier old stock HE-4 pads... Wayyyy more comfortable for my poor "hipster" eyeglasses.
post #2229 of 3917
You wear plastic frames with no glass? Lol

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We should probably get back on topic...

I think I found some of those squishier old stock HE-4 pads... Wayyyy more comfortable for my poor "hipster" eyeglasses.[/quote]
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New hifiman pads...where are you?! Has anyone tried the lawtons? i know theyre 100 buckaroos, but, im trying to further enhance my he4 lifestyle. Going to buy a usb to coaxial converter, hopefully wooden cups, and re terminate the stock cable to xlr, i might do some limba pieces for the cable if i can manage to do it correctly.

post #2231 of 3917
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Originally Posted by hemipowered007 View Post

New hifiman pads...where are you?! Has anyone tried the lawtons? i know theyre 100 buckaroos, but, im trying to further enhance my he4 lifestyle. Going to buy a usb to coaxial converter, hopefully wooden cups, and re terminate the stock cable to xlr, i might do some limba pieces for the cable if i can manage to do it correctly.

Have you considered te Stax pads?
post #2232 of 3917

Yes but theyre also over 100, has anyone tried them with the 4? I know someone has tried them with the 500 or 400 or 6 but i dont think ive heard of anyone trying them with the 4. Also, would be interested in the lcd pads

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yes, but alot of that isnt based on he4, which gets quite different results compared to the 400 and 500 that most of that thread is based on

post #2235 of 3917
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Originally Posted by hemipowered007 View Post
 

yes, but alot of that isnt based on he4, which gets quite different results compared to the 400 and 500 that most of that thread is based on


True story. The Jergpads weren't great with the HE4 as with the 400 and 500 according to Thujone and I can believe it. However that thread does have a lot of suggestions on different pads to try, just not how they sound. I think myself and a few others are the only ones posting about the HE4 on there. Once those HE560 and HE400i pads become available I'll be sure to try them out.
 


Edited by Soundsgoodtome - 6/3/14 at 2:33pm
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