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post #1966 of 3124

I think there is a case for high dynamic swings and some smaller amps not having the beefy equipment like huge transformers to satisfy the swings for that type of music-- leading to less impactful dynamic peaks that you usually get from drums etc, but as far as changing the sound of headphones dramatically, power is one of the most erroneous and dangerous myths on head-fi imo, ime, imho, ymmv, +1.

 

I don't doubt at all that Thujone and others have found the lowly Vali to sound best with the HE-4 other over notable favorites like the Emotiva mini and others.

post #1967 of 3124
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Seriously... I shouldn't even bother.
Are you referring to me? And your previous post where you mention criticism is directed at me too? If so I don't see what thats got to do with my find and post.
post #1968 of 3124

My initial post was in response to Rinx7. Basically, if you have enough volume with enough headroom to handle dynamic swings, you have enough power. Period. I've tried saying this several times in the past but, as TMRaven has pointed out, there is still a big stigma that a headphone's sound quality completely revolves around power output.

 

As far as your find/preference, I think it's interesting! No shame in loving something affordable or off-the-wall :D. I'm just trying to point out that the lack of bass impact has nothing to do with your lack of power.


Edited by Thujone - 5/2/14 at 7:31am
post #1969 of 3124
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My initial post was in response to Rinx7. Basically, if you have enough volume without enough headroom to handle dynamic swings, you have enough power. Period. I've tried saying this several times in the past but, as TMRaven has pointed out, there is still a big stigma that a headphone's sound quality completely revolves around power output.

 

As far as your find/preference, I think it's interesting! No shame in loving something affordable or off-the-wall :D. I'm just trying to point out that the lack of bass impact has nothing to do with your lack of power.

 

With?

post #1970 of 3124

Whoops, yeah.

post #1971 of 3124
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As far as your find/preference, I think it's interesting! No shame in loving something affordable or off-the-wall biggrin.gif . I'm just trying to point out that the lack of bass impact has nothing to do with your lack of power.

I see. Its ironic that I said the bass is lacking due to power as I also usually say HE-4 or HE-500 don't need a speaker amp. But couldn't think of anything else in this case, this device is so small and underwhelming visually that it seemed like it must be under powering the headphones.

I have tried the HE-4 with a speaker amp a couple years ago (pics can be found in my Flickr if interested) but the results were not favourable.
post #1972 of 3124

I've had similar poor results with speaker amps (notably the Emotiva mini-X). It was very dynamic/punchy but so grainy and closed in. I never understood the "wide soundstage" everyone claims the Emotiva has.

post #1973 of 3124
My results from memory was also graininess, bloomy and overpowered bass and lack of detail. Don't remember how the soundstage was. Interesting that you don't like the X as so many think highly of it. But I am not surprised.
post #1974 of 3124
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Oh guyz. I already told you, the DT 880 Velours sound the same on the HE 4 as the stock ones do, best of all the DT 880 VElours are much more comfy

Hey, does the DT880 velour silver pads allow you to stuff it under the pad? Not between the ring and portion that wraps around the HF ring but directly underneath the pad?

post #1975 of 3124
The mini x is a decent amp, not great, and definitely over hyped here. The hype train on that thing couldn't be stopped! But for the price, still a decent unit for sure, just not something I cared a ton for.
post #1976 of 3124
So I decided to stay with the HE-4 and sell both DT880 and Aune T1 to fund a better amp.

What would you guys recommend me up to $350-400?
post #1977 of 3124
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So I decided to stay with the HE-4 and sell both DT880 and Aune T1 to fund a better amp.

What would you guys recommend me up to $350-400?

Project Ember :veryevil:. What DAC do you have though?

post #1978 of 3124
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Project Ember very_evil_smiley.gif . What DAC do you have though?
I was actually looking for one now lol. Currently only the Aune.
post #1979 of 3124

I would try to get a SS DAC if possible. I haven't used the Aune but I had the D1 and I really didn't like the tube DAC in hindsight. Plus, if what I read is true, most of the Aune coloring is from the DAC portion. Some love it though. I think that Modi + Ember could be really great, though I haven't ever tried the Modi either... Too many options, that's for sure!

post #1980 of 3124
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I would try to get a SS DAC if possible. I haven't used the Aune but I had the D1 and I really didn't like the tube DAC in hindsight. Plus, if what I read is true, most of the Aune coloring is from the DAC portion. Some love it though. I think that Modi + Ember could be really great, though I haven't ever tried the Modi either... Too many options, that's for sure!
I'm thinking of trying the ODAC.
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