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Thanks. Yeah, congested is a good word for the Mini-x. Can you elaborate on whether the Vali's intimacy can sound congested? I know the Vali is supposed to have a smallish soundstage, but how is the separation within that soundstage? I'm more into separation and imaging than soundstage size. 

Aggressive and spacious sounds right up my alley, but I probably shouldn't splurge on the Ember after buying my Concero in the fall. Hmmm. Choices, choices. What DAC were you using?

 

I don't think I would use the word congested but it's more smeared on the low end (bass-lower mids). It's very silky smooth sounding but it doesn't have the grainy effect the mini-X does in complex passages. The intimacy does take away a bit from the soundstage width but I really enjoy it with its silky bottom end. If you are looking for more soundstage width and depth (and aggression), Ember is where it's at. I did all my listening with the Bifrost Uber.

 

Not to mention the Ember is ridiculously good looking :p

post #1817 of 3917
thanks @manbear higher powered amps maintain their current. Where as a lower power amp will lose amps in exchange for.volts.

The consistentacy is the appeal

that said. Im not sure if Ill get the he 560 or lcd x next honestly
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thanks @manbear higher powered amps maintain their current. Where as a lower power amp will lose amps in exchange for.volts.

 

I'm not sure where you came up with this... That is, if you are continuing to imply that a higher powered amp will still do better than a lower powered amp. Once you have enough power and enough to handle swings, you simply don't need any more.


Edited by Thujone - 4/1/14 at 12:14pm
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Sooo, I have them in but to be brief, it's either planars that are not my thing or the fact that I haven't got a good amp for them. Tried my Marantz PM80 MKII as well but it just remains lifeless and completely uninteresting. HE-400 and LCD-2 were the same story. Have a feeling that even if I had a matching for them I'd still find them very underwhelming. Well, I pooped on this party haha.

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Sooo, I have them in but to be brief, it's either planars that are not my thing or the fact that I haven't got a good amp for them. Tried my Marantz PM80 MKII as well but it just remains lifeless and completely uninteresting. HE-400 and LCD-2 were the same story. Have a feeling that even if I had a matching for them I'd still find them very underwhelming. Well, I pooped on this party haha.

Noooooo!!!! Haha, what cans are you fond of?

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^^ Right now, I am taken by the Sennheiser 540. They're just a lot of fun which includes it's price. It's what I wanted the HD-600 and 650 to be but didn't provide. That said, I do like to listen to a 600 again soon to compare it to the 540. Other than that the Fostex TH-600. It works really well for my main genre which is electronic. So, maybe I'm a dynamics boy.

 

(By the way, if anyone likes to trade his Senn 600, PM me)

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The HD600 is more laid back than the HE-4, for sure. Both are very neutral though. I haven't tried the HD540 but maybe you are just a dynamics guy? It might be worth getting a different amp just to try before getting rid of the HE-4 though (considering it's discontinued).

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Really couldn't make much sense of the HE-4's signature. Lol, yeah that unfun. Nevermind. Going with my gut on this one so won't be trying another amp.

 

What I find interesting is if I could make a careful first conclusion that planars are not for me. I mean, do they produce sound that differently from dynamics that it perhaps just doesn't 'resonate' with me? Easy answer is who knows but maybe technically (aside from proper amping) or biologically explainable?


Edited by moriez - 4/2/14 at 7:59am
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I dunno, they're all a bit different. Never listened to the LCD's but the HE-500 is like a super HD600 (very similar sounding, just slightly better) and the HE-400/4 have a less musical and more aggressive sound. The T50RP can be modded to sound very similar to the HE-500... Yeah, orthos are weird.

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Originally Posted by moriez View Post
 

Really couldn't make much sense of the HE-4's signature. Lol, yeah that unfun. Nevermind. Going with my gut on this one so won't be trying another amp.

 

What I find interesting is if I could make a careful first conclusion that planars are not for me. I mean, do they produce sound that differently from dynamics that it perhaps just doesn't 'resonate' with me? Easy answer is who knows but maybe technically (aside from proper amping) or biologically explainable?


What exactly do you consider a 'fun' sound and what do you enjoy listening to? The HE400, LCD2, and HE4 are all different sounding. You used your D100 to power the HE4?

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Has anyone tried a Woo Amp with the HE-4. The WA6 seems like it might be able to power them.

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I asked the same exact question a few pages back, nobody replied saying they had. I am also interested though, as that is one sexy amp.
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I read some ancient threads just a couple minutes ago and some people said it is right on the edge. It works with the HE-500, but with the HE-4 it can barely give them enough. Probably would have to step up to the WA-6SE to get it to work well enough.

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Originally Posted by Thujone View Post
 

I dunno, they're all a bit different. Never listened to the LCD's but the HE-500 is like a super HD600 (very similar sounding, just slightly better) and the HE-400/4 have a less musical and more aggressive sound. The T50RP can be modded to sound very similar to the HE-500... Yeah, orthos are weird.

 

Haven't read that before. The 600 is that similar to the 500? Sounds interesting but really, not going near planar anytime soon :D

 

This reminds me of my short time with an AKG K400 and 702. Those shouldn't be hard to amp but I found them equally lifeless. Comfort is another thing they all lack in my opinion.

 

 

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Originally Posted by moriez View Post
 

Really couldn't make much sense of the HE-4's signature. Lol, yeah that unfun. Nevermind. Going with my gut on this one so won't be trying another amp.

 

What I find interesting is if I could make a careful first conclusion that planars are not for me. I mean, do they produce sound that differently from dynamics that it perhaps just doesn't 'resonate' with me? Easy answer is who knows but maybe technically (aside from proper amping) or biologically explainable?


What exactly do you consider a 'fun' sound and what do you enjoy listening to? The HE400, LCD2, and HE4 are all different sounding. You used your D100 to power the HE4?

 

What I meant with unfun is in the broad sense. Just an unfun experience to listen to. A fun headphone is one that puts a smile on my face. Not much more. I try to be careful about what I say when describing because half the time I don't know what it is. I used the D100 indeed, the Matrix Quattro DAC (minimal power) and the Marantz. It's interesting what you said about the Yulong pairing and now that I'm reading back your impressions I have to say, respect for what you were able to hear and put to words.


Edited by moriez - 4/3/14 at 12:30am
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The he500 is nothing like the hd 600 IMHO. Nothing.
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