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post #1471 of 3917
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Originally Posted by mrscotchguy View Post

Just my 2 pennies... No matter how many mods I made to my t50rp/t20rp, I could never get the sound I got from my HE-4. I revist my modded Fostex can every now and then, and I always feel the bass is missing. BMF ended up building me a DBV#3 on a trade last year, and he reached probably the flattest response I've had the chance to hear. That said, I never did hear the bass response everyone touted. Ultimately the modded drivers need the volume cranked to ear bleeding levels for me to get any true bass (and it just never gets as deep or punchy as my HE-4 or even my HD800s).

I do not regret the countless hours I spent modding those headphones. But, in the end, now that my free time is nearly non-existent, I'd rather buy the sound that I want up front without the need to tinker later.

One of the most satisfying audio purchases I have made was the HE-4... If you decide to go down the slippery T50rp path, just be careful, time sneaks away very quickly. I found I was no longer listening to music, but listening to mods.

Sir, I truly appreciate this advice. I've read many many of your posts and honestly respect your opinion. So, seeing as, the he4 is also the ONLY hp,so far, to just...wow..me. what am I supposed to do for a closed back? That's really the only reason a wanted the t50. Maybe these 262s will defeat that though. You see, the he4 is damn near a speaker, and I have a 15 month old, and one on the way. So, I need to find a quiet closed solution. And man, once again, Thanks for the response I have a lot of respect for your sacrifices.
post #1472 of 3917
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Originally Posted by hemipowered007 View Post

Sir, I truly appreciate this advice. I've read many many of your posts and honestly respect your opinion. So, seeing as, the he4 is also the ONLY hp,so far, to just...wow..me. what am I supposed to do for a closed back? That's really the only reason a wanted the t50. Maybe these 262s will defeat that though. You see, the he4 is damn near a speaker, and I have a 15 month old, and one on the way. So, I need to find a quiet closed solution. And man, once again, Thanks for the response I have a lot of respect for your sacrifices.

No prob, just sharing what I've learned. I cannot answer the closed search for you since I am still "fightin the good fight" as I look for a suitable (fully) closed can that makes me happy and is some-what portable.

I can give you two more thoughts...

1) The T50rp and its modded variants will never be truly closed as doing so kills nearly all the bass. Think of them as mostly closed. This headphone can be made comfortable by buying new pads (or stacking pass) and then further by making a suspension mod or attaching padding of some kind. When the headphone could be purchased for $75, it was easy to jump on the hype train and go nuts with modding.

Major improvements take huge amounts of time especially if you want to test out each school of mods (rastapants, DBV, etc). People always tend to forget that even when you follow the recipe perfectly, it will not guarantee you like the end sound without doing more tinkering.

Do I regret the time I spent? Absolutely not, I learned so much about headphones, and my tastes in music, sound profiles, equipment, and comfort. It made me a more aware consumer. Would I do it all over again... That's a tough one, since I literally spent thousands of hours modding, an trying to keep up with all the threads and spin-off threads.

I will say, the dynamics of the people inside those threads really made it worth doing. Everyone was so eager to work and share idea with one another. Banter was friendly, though frequently off topic, no one ever seems tomget int the overly commonly flames that seem to be pattern around the rest of HeadFi.

Ultimately, the Fostex RP driver has potential, but I do think many people over hype it since the cheap driver often gets casually lumped in with so many flagships. Thunderpants, Paradox, and MrSpeakers iterations aside (since I haven't heard any), I still haven't had any RP mod impress me with its overall presentation. There is always a "but"...

"Sounds good butt...."

Hoping I get a chance to listen to be proved wrong by the Alpha Dog some day.

Now all that said, non of my mods could ever touch a factory HE-4 ( even under driven), but I did get one of my T50rps to sound pretty darn close to my HD580 while being semi- closed. That's a feat!

2) I'll try to keep this point brief, but as I test out closed options... I will continue to keep my Sony Mdr-v6 since nothing can seem to be better for portable use compared to its near-indestructible nature and extreme portability. Best sound, he'll no, but it will never sound bad from really any source.
post #1473 of 3917
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Originally Posted by mrscotchguy View Post


Just my 2 pennies... No matter how many mods I made to my t50rp/t20rp, I could never get the sound I got from my HE-4. I revist my modded Fostex can every now and then, and I always feel the bass is missing. BMF ended up building me a DBV#3 on a trade last year, and he reached probably the flattest response I've had the chance to hear. That said, I never did hear the bass response everyone touted. Ultimately the modded drivers need the volume cranked to ear bleeding levels for me to get any true bass (and it just never gets as deep or punchy as my HE-4 or even my HD800s).

I do not regret the countless hours I spent modding those headphones. But, in the end, now that my free time is nearly non-existent, I'd rather buy the sound that I want up front without the need to tinker later.

One of the most satisfying audio purchases I have made was the HE-4... If you decide to go down the slippery T50rp path, just be careful, time sneaks away very quickly. I found I was no longer listening to music, but listening to mods.

 

 

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Originally Posted by hemipowered007 View Post


Sir, I truly appreciate this advice. I've read many many of your posts and honestly respect your opinion. So, seeing as, the he4 is also the ONLY hp,so far, to just...wow..me. what am I supposed to do for a closed back? That's really the only reason a wanted the t50. Maybe these 262s will defeat that though. You see, the he4 is damn near a speaker, and I have a 15 month old, and one on the way. So, I need to find a quiet closed solution. And man, once again, Thanks for the response I have a lot of respect for your sacrifices.

Heaviliy Modded D2k is a nice start, I still enjoy my Modded W1000x as well, even with the HE 4 at home

 

although the  irony here is I need 2 closed backs to compare to one open xD

post #1474 of 3917
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Originally Posted by mrscotchguy View Post


2) I'll try to keep this point brief, but as I test out closed options... I will continue to keep my Sony Mdr-v6 since nothing can seem to be better for portable use compared to its near-indestructible nature and extreme portability. Best sound, he'll no, but it will never sound bad from really any source.

 

What's your budget ?   

post #1475 of 3917
Zmf modded t50rp seems to be getting great reviews. $219 for basic and $299 with a recable. They're claiming comparable to an he500
Edited by Soundsgoodtome - 2/13/14 at 11:53pm
post #1476 of 3917
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Originally Posted by Sorrodje View Post

What's your budget ?   

I'm not actively looking, truth be told. Just waiting for the right can to pop in my life, sorta like the HE-4 and HD800 did. Right now for semi- open, my Bushmills-Grados are doing the trick.... For now. Maybe Hifiman will make a closed can down the road, I'm patient.

( though the B&W P7 may be the next traveler I pick up)
post #1477 of 3917

One of The best "bang for the buck" closed can I tried is the Takstar pro80. http://www.amazon.com/Takstar-Headphones-Monitor-Earphones-Professional/dp/B00FXSVSDW  ;)

post #1478 of 3917
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Originally Posted by Soundsgoodtome View Post

Zmf modded t50rp seems to be getting great reviews. $219 for basic and $299 with a recable. They're claiming comparable to an he500


It is a really well done mod. One of my favorite closed cans.

post #1479 of 3917
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Originally Posted by Fearless1 View Post
 


It is a really well done mod. One of my favorite closed cans.

Hmm really I'll have to take a look at them

 

Is the sound on teh Dark side or the bright? How does it compare to the Mad Dog 

post #1480 of 3917
I would compare them to the HE500 with a bit more air, the MadDogs sound more like the LCD-2. Definitely more natural sounding then the MadDogs, but I like them both.
Edited by Fearless1 - 2/14/14 at 10:01am
post #1481 of 3917
Instrument separation, soundstage, and bass comparable to the he500? And i take you have the v1?

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Originally Posted by Fearless1 View Post

I would compare them to the HE500 with a bit more air, the MadDogs sound more like the LCD-2. Definitely more natural sounding then the MadDogs, but I like them both.

Edited by Soundsgoodtome - 2/14/14 at 12:10pm
post #1482 of 3917
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Originally Posted by Fearless1 View Post

I would compare them to the HE500 with a bit more air, the MadDogs sound more like the LCD-2. Definitely more natural sounding then the MadDogs, but I like them both.

ooh man... I kinda want to hear that... wonder how it compares to the Alpha Dog 

post #1483 of 3917
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Originally Posted by Soundsgoodtome View Post

Instrument separation, soundstage, and bass comparable to the he500? And i take you have the v1?

They are great, still sound like a modded T50rp, but they are my favorite of what I have tried.   I also own a Maddog /Alpha pads, a self modded T50 RP(bass heavy with wood cups) and a Thunderpants (last version). I own the version 2.

 

 

Zach based his mods on the HE-500. They are really great, an HE-500, nope........ but really close in sound signature.

post #1484 of 3917
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Originally Posted by Mshenay View Post
 

ooh man... I kinda want to hear that... wonder how it compares to the Alpha Dog 


I have not heard the Alpha Dog, but I am sure they are phenomenal, Dan does a fantastic job. 

post #1485 of 3917
Welp, I'm in for one if I ever get my tax return
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