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post #1276 of 3917
There's not going to be a "best" wpc here. I think the whole, more power better sound, has gotten blown out of proportion here. The reason vintage amps that are TOL sound better with the he4, isn't their wpc rating. Its because the higher end high wpc amps have better circuitry, well some of them. An old pioneer like an sx-1280 or such, is going to sound better because the amp was built with better caps and resistors, and just built with higher end parts. My 727 does fine, at 35 wpc, needs some work still. The emotiva is 50 wpc, and for now sounds cleaner. But I lose mid warmth and slight treble rolloff. The 727, once I'm done will sound better in the end than the emotiva.
post #1277 of 3917
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Originally Posted by kothganesh View Post
 

Oh heck yeah. I was listening to the HE-4 from a vintage Luxman receiver two days ago. After listening to it for about 30 minutes, I went back to the Emotiva and did realized HOW scalable the HE-4 is. The owner of the receiver (a 90 year old man) refused point blank to sell the Luxman to me !

 

You just need to work your way into his inheritance. :D

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Originally Posted by Keithpgdrb View Post
 

so how many WPC is best here?

 

125.8mW will get the HE-4 to 105dB. Like hemi said, the whole "more power is better" thing is way overblown, or at least IMO. Just try different amps and find what you like best. I had the Emotiva next to Ember and ended up going with Ember even though it has maybe 10% of the power the Emotiva has; it just sounds way better.

post #1278 of 3917
I agree with the previous posts on amp quality over wpc. But as these cans are power hungry, I was just looking from a technical perspective, what do they need?
post #1279 of 3917
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Originally Posted by Keithpgdrb View Post

I agree with the previous posts on amp quality over wpc. But as these cans are power hungry, I was just looking from a technical perspective, what do they need?

 

Again, 125.8mW will get the HE-4 to 105dB. How loud do you want them to be?

post #1280 of 3917
Sorry. I read those numbers. Then forgot them.
post #1281 of 3917
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Originally Posted by Keithpgdrb View Post

I agree with the previous posts on amp quality over wpc. But as these cans are power hungry, I was just looking from a technical perspective, what do they need?

One of the best amps for HE-4\6 is Beta22 (3- or 4-channel, based on russian audiophiles' findings). It provides over 3W. Less power affects dynamics and overall sound energy especially when listening to high dynamic range classic music. So these headphones don't need megawatts of power. What really matters is the quality of power. Looks like Beta22 power supply can provide stable current in peaks and the result is excellent. It seems Project Ember does a great job thanks to it's good power supply.


Edited by GigArt - 1/29/14 at 10:12am
post #1282 of 3917
Well... The he4 is no longer being manufactured according to hifiman on the ces thread. Better get yours before they run out of stock (on the fences), this is the end of a great hp. And beginning of new ones!
post #1283 of 3917
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Originally Posted by Soundsgoodtome View Post

Well... The he4 is no longer being manufactured according to hifiman on the ces thread. Better get yours before they run out of stock (on the fences), this is the end of a great hp. And beginning of new ones!

I just saw that too... makes me sad. :(

post #1284 of 3917

Well that makes me really glad I got mine in time. Maybe in a couple years it will sell for obnoxious amounts of money like Denons do now. Also on the Beta 22, that things seems like it is pretty much one of the best amps period, I haven't heard anyone have any complaints about it when paired with anything.

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Question would the Vali+Modi stack be enough to power the HE4? 

post #1286 of 3917
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Well that makes me really glad I got mine in time. Maybe in a couple years it will sell for obnoxious amounts of money like Denons do now. Also on the Beta 22, that things seems like it is pretty much one of the best amps period, I haven't heard anyone have any complaints about it when paired with anything.

Even if it becomes overpriced like the denons. I shall never let these leave my hands!!!
post #1287 of 3917
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Even if it becomes overpriced like the denons. I shall never let these leave my hands!!!

The denons have imo leveled out price wise. A used fully MOdded D7k sells around $800

 

Used D2ks are still around $250-300 not sure what they where NEW MSRP back in the day, but I don't see the HE 4 ever being worth a TON

 

non the less... thinking bout selling my DT 880 to buy one of these bad bois

 

Is it true what they say? They HE 4 is like a "super" Dt 880? Meaning clean bass, natrual mids and a touch of bright treble? Oh and ofc the addition of the good ole Planar Sub Bass 

post #1288 of 3917
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Originally Posted by Mshenay View Post

Is it true what they say? They HE 4 is like a "super" Dt 880? Meaning clean bass, natrual mids and a touch of bright treble? Oh and ofc the addition of the good ole Planar Sub Bass 

YES! I compared them carefully one month ago and the HE-4 is definitely a kind of upgraded DT-880.
post #1289 of 3917
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YES! I compared them carefully one month ago and the HE-4 is definitely a kind of upgraded DT-880.

Good! I just bought an HE 4 in mint condition with a balanced Cable!  and lots of extras. 

 

I might even get to compare the DT 880 and the HE 4! 

post #1290 of 3917
Congrats on the purchase.
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