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I just bought a Little Dot MK VI and was wondering what they changed in the "+" version?  Do the two amps use the same tubes?

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I think that the + version might have had new fans, and also has single ended operation (though lots of people say that it hums with SE)

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Silly question, if I use the balanced input (line) from my DAC's balanced out, would the headphone amp's single ended output be active, or just the balanced one. Thanks.
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Both are active, at least on my MKVI+

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Thanks, I figured, but better be sure.
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Swapped the fans for Noctua R8's and put a couple of fan filters on :) Can barely hear them spin.

 

One other thing, has any of you found a better volume knob? The plastic one feels very cheap.

Also do you think it would be possible to fit a stepped attenuator in the amp? I am thinking that they would be a bit bigger than a ALPS pot, which is similarly sized to the one sitting in it (the one with the motor).

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You would need a 4 gang stepped attenuator. The current pot in the LD is the same used in OPPO HA-1 amp.

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Originally Posted by greenkiwi View Post

I think that the + version might have had new fans, and also has single ended operation (though lots of people say that it hums with SE)

I don't think LD changed the fan during the introduction of + version, if you see a new fan somewhere in the production, probably because the stock runs out and the new supply is a different model, a regular BOM adjustment instead of product design change.
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Originally Posted by dizzyorange View Post
 

I just bought a Little Dot MK VI and was wondering what they changed in the "+" version?  Do the two amps use the same tubes?

 

The "+" version added the SE headphone output. 

 

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Originally Posted by LajostheHun View Post

Silly question, if I use the balanced input (line) from my DAC's balanced out, would the headphone amp's single ended output be active, or just the balanced one. Thanks.

 

Yes. There is a bit of a difference between balanced headphone amplifiers and balanced (XLR) output from a DAC. The XLR output from a DAC is there to eliminate interference in the signal. Balanced amplification has to do with splitting the signals to be amplified. 

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The "+" version added the SE headphone output. 

 

 

Yes. There is a bit of a difference between balanced headphone amplifiers and balanced (XLR) output from a DAC. The XLR output from a DAC is there to eliminate interference in the signal. Balanced amplification has to do with splitting the signals to be amplified. 

Thanks but my question and concern was answered earlier. I'm  aware of what a balanced amplifier topology is, I simply wanted to know if both outputs are active, since none of my headphones currently have balanced cables. I'm currently on the market to buy an amp that has both SE and balanced HP out, and has lots of output to power HPs that might be difficult drive, in case I I ever need it in the future. This model is my short list.

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Originally Posted by elwappo99 View Post
 

 

The "+" version added the SE headphone output. 

 

 

Yes. There is a bit of a difference between balanced headphone amplifiers and balanced (XLR) output from a DAC. The XLR output from a DAC is there to eliminate interference in the signal. Balanced amplification has to do with splitting the signals to be amplified. 

Thanks but my question and concern was answered earlier. I'm  aware of what a balanced amplifier topology is, I simply wanted to know if both outputs are active, since none of my headphones currently have balanced cables. I'm currently on the market to buy an amp that has both SE and balanced HP out, and has lots of output to power HPs that might be difficult drive, in case I I ever need it in the future. This model is my short list.

 

 

Well I was hoping to add a bit of information regarding "balanced DACs" and "balanced amplifiers", since they mean different things. 

 

I've owned a lot of balanced amplifiers, and the ones that have a SE output are usually some sort of compromise. The SE output never really sounds all that good, IMHO.

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I gotcha, I hope I wasn't rude. My Zdac from Parasound isn't a true balanced design,but I could still use the XLR outs with amps that accepts that output, but can still accommodate my current HPs for the time being with their SE HP out.

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Can someone recommend some tubes for me?  I'm looking for a sound that has: 

 

- powerful bass

- warm, sweet midrange with perhaps a bit of "girth" or "thickness"

- not harsh, cold, or analytical

- more euphonic than neutral

- but not too laid-back or too smooth (I thought the Shuguang CV-181-Z tubes I tried recently were too smooth and laid-back).

 

I purchased a second-hand Little Dot Mk VI that comes with Russian 6H13C for the output and Tung-sol 6SL7 GT for the driver tube.  If anyone has experience with these tubes, what do you think of them?

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Power tubes: for powerful bass Sylvania 6080 Gold brand, or Bendix 6080WB graphite plates or TungSol 5998, probably in that order, for midrange sweetness TS, Sylvania and Bendix in that order, all horrendously expensive now. Regarding driver tubes, I would stick to what you have, they are the ones I stick with for clarity and midrange sweetness, and they are still affordable. The bass is one of the best I think for punch and definition but it is not overly powerful, indeed the LD does not do overly powerful bass in which case you might still be alright if you have Audeze LCD2's, or such like. If you don't like a smooth sound you could try a 7F7 type such as Raytheon which have more of a live feel to the sound are very good value still. There are a lot of tubes out there but most I suspect would not fit your bill.

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Does anyone know where I can buy the 6sn7 or 6sl7 tube extenders so I could use my cv-181 on my little dot . I have not tried but other people said that their base is too big for the little dot driver tube openings . I have a first version of the MKVI+ .
Please send me a link if possible.
Thanks in advance
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