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post #1246 of 1307

Just an observation but I had a similar experience to ozaudios with the right gauge going off the scale and a burning smell a while ago. As I had just cleaned some new tubes with deoxit I assumed, rightly or wrongly that the burning was coming from the deoxit heating up. Anyway I switched off straight away and left it a while for the deoxit to dry thoroughly and for the first few times I switched it back on I kept a close eye on the right meter and since then I have not had a similar experience so everything appears to be ok, but maybe I should take off the bottom and check just to be sure. Maybe ozaudio's experience is not so disastrous?

post #1247 of 1307

When the right meter kicks in and does not closely match the left side, I turn off the amp intermediately because there is a problem. I think that I mention here before that I had a Bendix tube that was doing that even tho it tested okay on the tube tester.  I always check the right meter reading when it kicks in as a safety meassure.     

post #1248 of 1307

How is LA Figaro 339 compared to this ?

post #1249 of 1307
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Originally Posted by richbass View Post
 

How is LA Figaro 339 compared to this ?

 

It doesn't compare.

post #1250 of 1307
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It doesn't compare.

Why?

post #1251 of 1307
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Why?

 

The 339 is slow, congested and muddy compared to the VI+ in balanced mode regardless of tubes, SE mode the gap is smaller but the 339 is good as it is is euphonically coloured compared to the cleaner sounding VI+.

post #1252 of 1307
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The 339 is slow, congested and muddy compared to the VI+ in balanced mode regardless of tubes, SE mode the gap is smaller but the 339 is good as it is is euphonically coloured compared to the cleaner sounding VI+.


Just what i was looking for. Thank you for posting your impressions.

post #1253 of 1307

Hi,

 

While this is an owners thread, and I am not an owner of either of these 2 amps, I have a couple of questions:

 

1) Both amps (mk6+ and mkviii se) have both balanced and unbalanced (SE) outs. Do both outs have similar levels of performance? For example, for certain amps like some audio-gd creations, it is specifically mentioned that XLR output is 4x or 2x of the SE output. Is that the case with these 2 amps as well? I ask because I am considering an amp for SE use right now, with the future possibility of balanced

2) mk6 has more brute force than mk viii se. While both amps will do a good job of driving say a Sennheiser HD650, will both also do an equally good job of driving say the Grado RS1i?

 

Looking forward to your responses. Earlier I had almost confirmed David a mkV SS amp, but I read extensively that the HD650's do better on tubes, so here I am.

 

Thanks!

post #1254 of 1307

Definitely not. Those amps are made to be used balanced, the SE outputs are there only for convenience.

On many VI they are noisy.

 

Grado cans are both low impedance and high sensitivity as far as I know. They aren't meant to drive them (but they can).

For your 650 they can both do the job with no problem, but I'm not sure which will be the best.


Edited by G600 - 3/25/14 at 10:59am
post #1255 of 1307
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Originally Posted by Vandal View Post
 

Hi,

 

While this is an owners thread, and I am not an owner of either of these 2 amps, I have a couple of questions:

 

1) Both amps (mk6+ and mkviii se) have both balanced and unbalanced (SE) outs. Do both outs have similar levels of performance? For example, for certain amps like some audio-gd creations, it is specifically mentioned that XLR output is 4x or 2x of the SE output. Is that the case with these 2 amps as well? I ask because I am considering an amp for SE use right now, with the future possibility of balanced

2) mk6 has more brute force than mk viii se. While both amps will do a good job of driving say a Sennheiser HD650, will both also do an equally good job of driving say the Grado RS1i?

 

Looking forward to your responses. Earlier I had almost confirmed David a mkV SS amp, but I read extensively that the HD650's do better on tubes, so here I am.

 

Thanks!

The mk6 is great with HD650's, but 650's is even better on an decent SS amp, say the Black cube from Lehmann. Haven't heard the LD SS amps tho.

 

Balanced is a lot better than SE, giving more punch and overall performance! SE sounds boring when you compare it to the Balanced output.

Never heard Grado on this so can't comment on that!

post #1256 of 1307
I wouldn't say a BCL is better than the MKVI+. Rather opposite, in my experience. I owned a MKVI (non +) with HD600s fully balanced and that was the best I've heard HD600s to date. I've used the HD600 with my Matrix M-Stage (a BCL clone) and the sound is nowhere near as good, though still decent. I did not compare them side by side, but HD600 on the MKVI was good enough for me to pass up quite a few more expensive options, including HD800s connected to badly matching amps (Beta22 and others), SR-007 connected to a BHSE (I later purchased a SR-007 and sold it very soon after), HE-60 connected to a few different DIY stat amps. The HD600 with the M-Stage is not something I would take over the previously mentioned combinations.
post #1257 of 1307

The BCL is only good with 4 headphones I've tried. Sony MDR CD750-950, SA3000 and 5000 and CD3000. 

post #1258 of 1307
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I wouldn't say a BCL is better than the MKVI+. Rather opposite, in my experience. I owned a MKVI (non +) with HD600s fully balanced and that was the best I've heard HD600s to date. I've used the HD600 with my Matrix M-Stage (a BCL clone) and the sound is nowhere near as good, though still decent. I did not compare them side by side, but HD600 on the MKVI was good enough for me to pass up quite a few more expensive options, including HD800s connected to badly matching amps (Beta22 and others), SR-007 connected to a BHSE (I later purchased a SR-007 and sold it very soon after), HE-60 connected to a few different DIY stat amps. The HD600 with the M-Stage is not something I would take over the previously mentioned combinations.

Lcd-3 paired with mkvi+ and balanced IC and balanced cable can't even touch lcd-3 with BCL imo. Same with all other headphones I heard with it (which ain't that many tho).
And 650 had more speed and punch to it with my BCL. Although now my BCL is a DIY copy by my dad, but I can't even imagine tho a tube amp beat it.

But I still like the mkvi+ and change between these two amps now and then.

Note that I'm also using Hegel hd20 as dac and that makes everything sound so much better than the stx dac for example.
Edited by Androb - 3/26/14 at 12:27am
post #1259 of 1307
Lots of valuable inputs. There is a spanner in the works. Does anyone have any idea about the mk vii+? I emailed david and he said the mk vii+ is not hampered in any way by using the single ended as opposed to balanced. Of course out of the balanced sounded way better as confirmed by him
post #1260 of 1307
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Need advice.
Does MKIV work well with AK K550 and Beyer DT880 (32ohm)?
I guess you are better off with a non balanced amplifier for those phones, since neither of them can be balanced. And the SE jack is pretty noisy. Check out other little dot amps.
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