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post #1111 of 1405
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Originally Posted by G600 View Post
 

Just received a quad of RCA 6AS7G black plates, there is one with a short :-(

My try will be delayed...

 If you can hang on........... I don't think you will be disappointed. I like the RCA's, lovely rich sound, I've still got mine just in case.....

post #1112 of 1405

Yes, I hope so !

They ran a few hours before this one started shorting :/

Not very kind for the amp by the way...

 

What's your everyday set on your MK VI ?

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My "permanent" set are the Bendix 6080WB's, they just give that extra bit of warmth and clarity over the RCA's that provide the ideal background for your driver tubes. Anything more exotic is wallet breaking unfortunately. I like the clarity of the USA tubes such as Tungsol, they are superb for that Fender twang type sound, but the warmth of the European tubes such as Amperex. Not having any Amperex I think the Bendix's do provide a hint of warmth, they certainly are not sterile sounding like the Tungsol 7236's for example.

post #1114 of 1405

Don't talk about wallet-ache :D

I need to buy a good balanced DAC, neutral on the warm side, but can't afford it right now.

So I'm staying with my soundcard, not very satisfied yet. My new rig -to my ears- is a bit hard on top end, and lacking bass. i find the result quite stressed, and not so improved by the tubes I'm stocking. I have to say it's painful for me to find trebles for my taste... and I don't think the MK VI+ to be a trebly amp. It is just a neutral amp, maybe picky on the source.

 

You have a nice set of power tubes, they seem to be the perfect all-rounders for both rich and relaxed listening and driver tube rolling !

Yes, the US tubes we are talking are generally quite clear and a tad dry. But I've not rolled any European power tubes, beside Sovtek Svetlana rebrands (not so European...).


Edited by G600 - 1/28/14 at 11:09am
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I've got the opposite problem to you, I find heavy bass stressful, I like it defined but not too punchy. I thought Audeze made fairly bass heavy cans? It comes out fairly realistically in the HiFiMan HE500's and the HE-6 but not heavily like, for example Ultrasone's which give a speaker like sound. Bass is improved by balanced operation and also by finding the right  DAC, which others might be able to suggest the right one. I do find the treble on the LD very smooth and sweet sounding. When I heard a particular Elbow track with electric piano with a set of Tungsol 6Sn7's I was hooked, it sounded really magical. That's why I use TS 6SL7's now for all types of music, the price of the 6Sn7's went ballistic!

 

I suggest you look for tubes with a slight treble rolloff, I like bass with a slight roll off, I don't like the very deep bass particularly, unfortunately none come to mind. The other thing I've found is a better USB such as a Wireworld UV, which, contrary to what I expected improved the sound somewhat from an initially rather sharp sound like a low quality bitrate rip, to a very much more pleasant rounder sound with a better harmonic content and improved sound stage. Also possibly stick with copper cables with a softer sound, rather than a silver one. The thing apart from bass which really stresses me out is the constant annoying sound of the highhat which sounds rather like sitting next to someone on a train who's listening to an ipod.


Edited by baronbeehive - 1/28/14 at 11:51am
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I'm not chasing heavy or muddy bass, just powerful, defined and full ones. Audeze cans are surely capable of that (their flat response make them able to deliver realistic and demonstrative bass), but I'm not hearing what I heard on several systems.

 

I'm pretty sure the MK VI itself (ie without tube) is a very neutral amp, which you can tweak by rolling tubes and matching sources (in fact it's what a good tube amp must be !). And indeed it has to be runned balanced from source to cans.

Do you catch differences between TS 6sn7 and 6sl7 ?

post #1117 of 1405

No I didn't hear any differences although I know others have.

post #1118 of 1405

I am using the Hegel HD20 as a dac. It got numerous times price for the best dac of the year from different magazines.

The HD11/HD20/HD25 is amazing dacs, but HD20 is the most price worthy if u can find it still, it ran out of production and the price got lowered by almost 50 percent, leaving it around 700euro.

I think it's pretty bassy.

post #1119 of 1405

OK, so thin differences if any. I'm dreaming of a topic comparing 6sn7 and 6sl7 of the same brand...

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I am using the Hegel HD20 as a dac. It got numerous times price for the best dac of the year from different magazines.

The HD11/HD20/HD25 is amazing dacs, but HD20 is the most price worthy if u can find it still, it ran out of production and the price got lowered by almost 50 percent, leaving it around 700euro.

I think it's pretty bassy.

Yep, this one is on my list, along with some Matrix, Audio GD, Linnenberg and other less known contenders. I wish I could audition them all...

post #1121 of 1405
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Originally Posted by G600 View Post
 

I'm not chasing heavy or muddy bass, just powerful, defined and full ones. Audeze cans are surely capable of that (their flat response make them able to deliver realistic and demonstrative bass), but I'm not hearing what I heard on several systems.

 

 

My only other thought on the bass is that the LD is not lightening fast unlike say some SET amps and the leading edge is noticeably softer IMO although no doubt the factory upgrade with the silver wiring would help.

post #1122 of 1405
If you want faster, tighter bass more realistically sounding than just gobs of quantity you need to rebuild the amp PM if you're interested it only involves replacing some parts.
post #1123 of 1405
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Looks beautiful indeed smily_headphones1.gif I actually ordered them because of the low cost. Would like some other driver tubes aswell but don't know what to get.

The MK VI+ will run well with either 6SN7 or 6SL7 tubes. The 6SL7 has higher gain than the 6SN7.

 

Here is a link to a discussion about 6SN7 tube types: http://www.head-fi.org/t/117677/the-reference-6sn7-thread

 

I hope this gives you some ideas of what you might like to buy.

post #1124 of 1405

Finally listening in balanced mode :D My dad made me a cheapish cable for my HD650, so it's not close to being the best cable wise, but everything became better :)

post #1125 of 1405

A few months ago I bought a pair of RCA 6SN7GT tubes, J.A.N. grey glass, 1940's, I got them on ebay for $30. 

Today I put them in the Little Dot for the first time, and I must say that these tubes are something special! Smooth and mellow, big bass, good mid range and a bit sparkling in the high range. I would have to rate them as some of the very best tubes I have ever listened to. Sometimes a bargain can be found on ebay from private sellers who are selling some old bits from in the shed.

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