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K-701 Drivers in K-500 enclosure

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I'm planning to buy this.

 

The seller says the result is a more open sound closer to the K-1000 which he also has and I will be able to test both.

I'm going to update this post as soon as I have the experience.

 

Still as long I don't know more please give your opinions on better capsules (such as K-701) in other bodies.

Is it risky to buy? Should I buy it if I like the sound very much and it's not really different than a K-1000 listening to various pieces of music?

 

The guy also told he just got a VERY nice amp, so I can test his K-701 in a K-500 case vs K-1000.

As soon as I know more I'll post it.

 

ps: The guy sounded honest, modest, a family man and really helpful and dedicated so I hope it's gonna be ok.

 

But some opinions would be appreciated so that I have some guidelines from you Head-Fi guys!

 

Thx a lot!

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Originally Posted by freeborn View Post

...please give your opinions on better capsules (such as K-701) in other bodies.

 

Is it risky to buy? Should I buy it if I like the sound very much and it's not really different than a K-1000 listening to various pieces of music?

 

The guy also told he just got a VERY nice amp, so I can test his K-701 in a K-500 case vs K-1000.

As soon as I know more I'll post it.


A few things here.  First, not everyone agrees that the K-701 drivers are an upgrade from AKG's older models before they were acquired.  Lots of us, including myself, are not fans of the new models.  So I don't see K-701 drivers as an upgrade - I would want the original K-500 drivers, since they're pretty wonderful.

 

Second, acoustics is not something easily tinkered with.  Even if you are in the "K-701 Sounds Good" camp, that does not mean that a K-701 driver will sound good in every enclosure.  Drivers need to be matched - carefully - to a particular cup and enclosure.  You can end up with all manner of problems when you put something into what it was never engineered to go into.  You can take the finest, most linear driver in the world and make it sound horrible by putting it in the wrong place.

 

I can tell you that no other headphone, no matter the modifications, matches the soundstage of the K-1000.  The only way you're going to get a K-1000-like soundstage is if you build a pair yourself with a similar earspeaker design.  Nothing that sits on your ears will sound like that.

 

And what happened to the original K-500 drivers?  I don't think I'd buy these.  I'd buy an unmolested K-500, though.

post #3 of 9
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Thank you for your answer Erik!

I will ask the guy some of things you mentioned, such as really what happened to that K-500.

Oh and I will reconsider buying it as there are some really cheap new K-701 ones for 260$ on ebay which is like the same price.

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Was wondering the same thing. Why would someone dismantle a perfectly good K-500. If it broke then there's no reason why you would trust this guy's "care" of his cans.


Edited by Sil3nce - 11/9/10 at 1:37pm
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Good point. I wonder if the K-500 drivers were put into the K-701 enclosures. Maybe he found that a significant upgrade and is dumping the leftovers.
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Well apart from being sceptic about the deal I don't think it's impossible the the K-701 capsules sound good in that K-500 body. I am going to give you a review very soon!

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Now I have listened to various pieces of music on a Bechmak DAC1 USB

 

And compared a [K-1000] to a [K-701 driver in a K-500 enclosure] and a Grado SR225.

 

Grado was nice but for me it had too artificially strong highs and was not too comfortable.

 

The difference between [K-1000] and the [K-701 driver in a K-500 enclosure]:

 

The K-1000 had a twinge of electrostatic feeling, I mean they sounded very unprepared, while the K-701driver/500enc. had that "dynamic" taste. It's like comparing the sound of a very high quality dynamic microphone (like K-701) to a condenser mic (like K-1000), I felt the same. However the difference was very slight still I could feel it, and ofc I know that the K-1000 is dynamic too, however sounds so clear that it doesn't sound like it.

 

As a consequence the K-701driver/K-500enclosure had a bit of less detail than the K-1000 but still performed very well and I bought it for 215$.

 

I'm asking you Eric is it possible that an original K-701 sounding not so good as the old K-500 has something to do with the enclosure, namely that they wanted to give a better bass to K-701 but that somehow ate up some of the detail the K-701 drivers naturally have?

 

So maybe the K-701 Driver in a K-500 enclosure is a nice combo resulting in a K-800? :)


Edited by freeborn - 11/14/10 at 8:51am
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As long as you are happy, but $215 seems a bit much considering I just bought a K500 in excellent condition for $120 USD.  

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I'm wondering what aspects of the sound are actually changed by the enclosure and by the driver, NOT theoretically, but in experience, like in this case.

 

I'm just too stubborn to believe that AKG stopped caring so much and the K-701 is not an improvement from K-500. Do more K-701/501 owners think it that way?

 

I think the reason why you got your K-500 so cheap is cuz a lot of people underrate that can, I wish I could compare 701 vs 500 any review would be appreciated.


Edited by freeborn - 11/15/10 at 3:29am
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