Kiteki owned the A2000x... and now has the T5p.. so wait for .. Kiteki to comment on them!
I own the Edition 8s.. maybe we could do a side-by-side comparison but.. I'm not even sure if Kiteki is still in Melbourne :P
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Kiteki owned the A2000x... and now has the T5p.. so wait for .. Kiteki to comment on them!
I own the Edition 8s.. maybe we could do a side-by-side comparison but.. I'm not even sure if Kiteki is still in Melbourne :P
I will say it again, for rock and pop lovers the ed.8's will be preferred by most due to their colored bass emphasis, for discreet or orchestral electronic, modern composition, jazz, free jazz, improv, avant-garde and classical the t5p is a much better headphone, they are more natural, open and reproduce acoustic space far more accurately than the ed8's which are terribly unnatural, but I guess bass always wins to fidelity in this forum....

I will say it again, for rock and pop lovers the ed.8's will be preferred by most due to their colored bass emphasis, for discreet or orchestral electronic, modern composition, jazz, free jazz, improv, avant-garde and classical the t5p is a much better headphone, they are more natural, open and reproduce acoustic space far more accurately than the ed8's which are terribly unnatural, but I guess bass always wins to fidelity in this forum....
In your opinion, of course. If people compare two headphones, the one with the perceived greater bass emphasis has the less fidelity? Solid logic.
Bass always wins over fidelity? Since when did it become a competition, with a bass vs fidelity 2 horse race. You prefer the T5p over the ED8 for "jazz, free jazz, improv, avant-garde and classical", that's an opinion, you write it as a fact. I don't think everyone agrees with your fact, but of course they are all bass heads that haven't got a clue with regards to fidelity.
I was about to return t5p (actually boxed them, but reconsidered as I still had time), and in fact that was my wife who persuaded me to keep them as they were so much richer and more detailed with some classical recordings than DT 1350. And in a week or two, 6-7 weeks in use, they really "opened up", so I'm quite content that I kept them. That happened about the moment when I had decided to get Edition 8. After all I got Edition 8 Ltd, and it's with me for a few days now.
With some of the classical Edition 8 are not very impressive - but not a major disappointment either. It goes better with the Apple sound than t5p - which goes fine with sansa Fuze; Still Ed 8 Ltd goes fine with Sansa, too. I prefer Ultrasones with pop/ rock (Simon & Garfunkel, Boston, Blood Sweat and Tears, AC/DC), - but beyers were fine, too. I expect the Ultrasones to change for better too, - then they indeed could outperform beyerdynamic.
Both phones ar usable on the go - beyers are bigger, but they have an understated design; ultrasones, while smaller and lighter, are somewhat more noticeable. Both are sensitive enough for 2nd gen Shuffle and Sansa Fuze, but they may benefit from a better amplification. mechanical build is quite similar, and so is comfort (for me). At the moment I can say beyers have an edge - but recalling how they sounded 2-6 weeks ago, and considering that I have had ultrasones only for a couple of days, I withhold any conclusions for the moment.
After listening to an Ed8 Ruthenium for a few days, I'd have to side w/the T5p for this matchup. Yes, the Ed8 has much more pronounced bass but whatever frequency cymbals usually come in at is accentuated too much and sounds really grating. The mids sound a bit recessed as well and the highs can occasionally seem too thin, mechanical and unnatural. I much prefer the fuller, musical quality of the mids and highs on the T5p over the pulsing beat of the Ed8. Especially since any music w/cymbals or steel string guitar just makes my ears bleed.
Obviously YMMV but that's how I hear these two. =)
OP, which version of edition 8 you are asking? You must tell us first so we can reply to you. 
OP, which version of edition 8 you are asking? You must tell us first so we can reply to you. 
Lol what difference does it make?
I think the Ed8 has a better-balanced overall sound but there are some things that I previously mentioned that just doesn't sound right to me with them. The T5p has great clarity and I like the way the mids and highs sound but it has a very, very, very recessed sub-bass. Besides that the bass is sufficient for me, but may not be for those who enjoy a fuller sounding bass line.
This is such a strange comparison. I haven't heard the T5P, though I have heard the Ed8, and from listening experience on one and readings on the other, they are far from competitors other than being top of the line closed cans. It's almost like asking about the SR-60i vs. the XB-500. Both the Ed8 and T5P on my short lists of endgame portable headphones though, as upgrades to my Pro 900 and SRH-940.



