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Klipsch image one on-ear mini-review
Nov 26, 2010 at 6:42 PM Post #76 of 126


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shaggy-foo said:
I haven't heard the 440, but I bought the 840's and returned them.  For one thing they are a monster of a headphone.  Very well built, but big, bulky and heavy.  It has the typical shure sound in that it has amazing highs and vibrant mids, but being very lackluster in the low ends.  If you only listen to rock, then the 840's are good, but if you are like me and listen to a wide variety of music, then stay away from the 840's. 
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Well I listen to everything but country and metal rock, so I guess thats a no to the Shures.  Are the ATH M50s as bulky and heavy as the Shures? How are they for extended periods of use?  If it gets uncomfortable after a while then there wouldn't be a solution to the problem.  Also the guys that sold me the Klipsch said they can give Ultrasone Pro 650s for $170, are those any good?
 
Thanks for the help so far Shaggy
 
Nov 26, 2010 at 10:23 PM Post #77 of 126
I would have to say B&W p5's are the cream of the crop. No sibilance and sq that beats the klipsch, beats PRO, vmoda crossfade, bose, and the sony xb series. It also sounds very neutral with that little emphasis on bass. But the b&w's make the music sound more fun.
 
Nov 27, 2010 at 2:49 AM Post #78 of 126
Today I tried the Image One at the Apple Store.  I had already listened to the P5 a few times before and liked it over the Beats Solo when listening to the same music offered in the store's iPods.  There was a clarity in the P5 that seemed to be missing in the Beats.
 
Today was not a good day for comparing headphones because the store was very crowded and therefore noisy.  However, I was able to conclude that, in comparison to the P5, the Image One for me:
- did not block outside noise as well as the P5.  For my ears the Image one is not an on-ear headphone but a over-the-ear headphone.
- had more emphasis on bass.
 
Since I was not familiar with the music (it was a Sarah McLachlan song) I could not say if the level of bass was appropriate.  I personally felt it was a bit exaggerated.
 
Maybe I'll try again at a quieter time, though the Apple Store is seldom quiet :)
 
Nov 27, 2010 at 11:44 AM Post #79 of 126
went to the apple store this weekend at a pretty busy location and no klispch image one, either it takes a long time to reach the south or I have to go to the busiest location which I don't want to go because the apple store there is crazy.
 
Nov 28, 2010 at 5:31 PM Post #80 of 126
I tried them at the Apple store in Austin.  Looks like you'll have to hit up the Galleria.
 
Nov 29, 2010 at 11:10 AM Post #81 of 126
The M50 is lighter and smaller than the Shure840 and personally I thought were more comfortable.  Though, some say the M50 have slightly more clamping force, but that didn't bother me at all.  The only issue I have with the M50 is that the cord is really long, even the coiled one, so you need to be careful of that if you want to use it portably.  Noise isolation is very good for the M50 and noise leakage is minimal if any.  I use the M50 on airplanes or other long trips.  I think the M50 has better noise isolation than the B&W P5 as well.  
 
I haven't listened to the ultrasone 650 so I can't comment.  I have listened to the ultrasone hfi 780 and thought they were similar to the M50 in sound signature...just slightly more muddled in the low-end and mid-bass.  They were heavier than the M50 and overall I preferred the M50 hence I returned the HFI 780.  But again, I can't comment on the 650...I do plan on the getting the ultrasone pro900 because I love the ultrasone pro 2500. 
 
Take a look at the phiaton.  I've listened to them for a short amount of time (so please take my impressions with a grain of salt), but the MS300 from what I remember were very good portable cans.  Slightly bass heavy but much better balanced than the Klipsch One.  The MS400 I remember sounding like a slightly more bass heavy M50, but overall a similar sound (perhaps the MS400 had a bit slower degrading bass).  Some people on head-fi community seem to like the Phiaton PS500 (I've never listened to them), but Markl seemed to like it so that's saying a lot. 
 
Nov 29, 2010 at 1:32 PM Post #83 of 126
The Ultrasone are by far the best sounding headphone that you've mentioned.  Get yourself the Pro 650 and you will be happy with them.  They have quick-swap pads that can work with other headphones in the Ultrasone lineup, so you could always get the velour pads if you want to increase comfort.  But I can wear mine all day without issue with the original pleather pads; the only more comfortable headphones I've used are the AKG K240, which are $99 right now on Amazon, and the 32-Ohm Beyerdynamic DT880.  Note that none of these are amazingly portable, but at least the Ultrasone fold up and fit into a pretty decent carrying case that come with the headphones.  Check out the pictures here:
http://www.amazon.com/Ultrasone-PRO-650-Professional-Headphones/dp/B000Y556DW
One thing I don't understand is that with the 650, they give two sets of pads, but both are pleather.  I would be curious to see how they change with the velour.
 
The Klipsch are pretty high up on the comfort list, but their sound quality is nothing compared to the three I've just posted.  The B&W P5 seemed pretty comfortable too.  Note that these two, are much more portable.
 
Nov 29, 2010 at 4:01 PM Post #84 of 126
you've read my mind.  That is exactly what I meant by the "busier location".  I think I'll pass and wait for it elsewhere.  This is the holiday time period we are talking about and parking in the parking garage for the galleria takes forever!

 
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shnitz said:
I tried them at the Apple store in Austin.  Looks like you'll have to hit up the Galleria.
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Nov 29, 2010 at 10:17 PM Post #85 of 126


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shaggy-foo said:
The M50 is lighter and smaller than the Shure840 and personally I thought were more comfortable.  Though, some say the M50 have slightly more clamping force, but that didn't bother me at all.  The only issue I have with the M50 is that the cord is really long, even the coiled one, so you need to be careful of that if you want to use it portably.  Noise isolation is very good for the M50 and noise leakage is minimal if any.  I use the M50 on airplanes or other long trips.  I think the M50 has better noise isolation than the B&W P5 as well.  
 
I haven't listened to the ultrasone 650 so I can't comment.  I have listened to the ultrasone hfi 780 and thought they were similar to the M50 in sound signature...just slightly more muddled in the low-end and mid-bass.  They were heavier than the M50 and overall I preferred the M50 hence I returned the HFI 780.  But again, I can't comment on the 650...I do plan on the getting the ultrasone pro900 because I love the ultrasone pro 2500. 
 
Take a look at the phiaton.  I've listened to them for a short amount of time (so please take my impressions with a grain of salt), but the MS300 from what I remember were very good portable cans.  Slightly bass heavy but much better balanced than the Klipsch One.  The MS400 I remember sounding like a slightly more bass heavy M50, but overall a similar sound (perhaps the MS400 had a bit slower degrading bass).  Some people on head-fi community seem to like the Phiaton PS500 (I've never listened to them), but Markl seemed to like it so that's saying a lot. 
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I was thinking of getting a pair of portable Phiatons. I'm still new to Head-Fi, so which cans would you recommend: PS 320, MS 300, or MS 400? (the PS 300 NC and PS 500 are out of the question; I don't want sound degradation and need a foldable set of headphones that are sub $200)
 
Nov 29, 2010 at 11:39 PM Post #86 of 126
i tried them out on black friday at the apple store.  they were comfortable, the isolation wasn't that good, and i found them wayyyyy too bass heavy.  maybe they weren't burned in yet, but my god..
 
Nov 30, 2010 at 9:31 AM Post #87 of 126
I would stick with either the MS300 or MS400.  Again, depends on what kind of music you listen to and what kind of headphones you are looking for.  Both are portable cans but the MS300 is smaller and it has more emphasis on the mids and highs from what I remember.  Take a look at the review below from a fellow head-fier:
http://www.head-fi.org/forum/thread/501812/phiaton-ms300-review-a-portable-grado
 
For a Stereophile MS400 review see below:
http://www.stereophile.com/headphones/phiaton_moderna_ms_400_headphones/
 
I do remember the MS400 being a bit more laid back and having more emphasis on the lower mids and low spectrums.  Personally, since I listen to all types of music and like a nice bass punch when the music calls for it, I would go for the MS400.  But if you listen to classical and rock more, perhaps the MS300 is a better choice.  Either way, they are both stunningly beautiful headphones.
 
Nov 30, 2010 at 9:39 AM Post #88 of 126
Hmmm I tried them yesterday and felt while they are good, they are definitely too bassy (and I'm a basshead yo!), bass very upfront, but less so than the horrid HORRID Bose On-Ears i had sometime back (and I'm no Bose basher; in fact i liked their older Around-Ear series).
 
I actually prefer the Denon 1001 to the Klipsch.  More balanced (even though Denons are already bassy).
 
Hey, how's it like compared to the AIAIAI TMA-01?
 
Nov 30, 2010 at 9:43 AM Post #89 of 126
Oh yah, and i forgot to add: Senns HD-238 COMPLETELY DEVASTATES....... DEVASTATOR!!
 
Er...sorry I mean DEVASTATES the Klipsch!!!
 
Nov 30, 2010 at 11:48 AM Post #90 of 126

Wow.  that's surprising to hear.  The 238 in my opinion is such a muddy, dark, non  detailed headphone.  to hear that they devestate the Klipsch is really a very bad sign for Klipsch. 
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fizban said:
Oh yah, and i forgot to add: Senns HD-238 COMPLETELY DEVASTATES....... DEVASTATOR!!
 
Er...sorry I mean DEVASTATES the Klipsch!!!
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