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post #1111 of 1316

The E9 can hold its out in terms of volume and output against a lot of models out there that are more expensive.  The problem is not found in ample volume, but in presentation.  The E9 lacks the spacious and airy sound to keep up with the big toys like the HE500 and LCD2 and similar relatively easily driven headphones that do not require a ton of power to get good sound ( but do require that vast power to get the very best sound ).  My HE500 sounds darn good and loud out of my Cowon J3, but it lacks the spacious and dynamic sound and clarity my home pc and Fiio E10 provides.  The E10 can drive the HE500 wonderfully loud but again is no where near dynamic or large sounding enough to justify use with Orthos.  You will miss a lot IMO

 

The E9/10 combo is excellent for starters if you cannot afford anything known for a spacious sound.  I am currently experiencing this problem right now with my HE500.  I simply cannot find a reasonably priced amplifier with exceptionally large sound qualities that will make the HE500 shine.  The E9 falls short, but provides plenty of volume, again even the Fiio E10 dac/amp provides sufficient volume.  I think the Lyr is overkill.

post #1112 of 1316

Dude...EF-5.

post #1113 of 1316
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Originally Posted by swbf2cheater View Post

The E9 can hold its out in terms of volume and output against a lot of models out there that are more expensive.  The problem is not found in ample volume, but in presentation.  The E9 lacks the spacious and airy sound to keep up with the big toys like the HE500 and LCD2 and similar relatively easily driven headphones that do not require a ton of power to get good sound ( but do require that vast power to get the very best sound ).  My HE500 sounds darn good and loud out of my Cowon J3, but it lacks the spacious and dynamic sound and clarity my home pc and Fiio E10 provides.  The E10 can drive the HE500 wonderfully loud but again is no where near dynamic or large sounding enough to justify use with Orthos.  You will miss a lot IMO

 

The E9/10 combo is excellent for starters if you cannot afford anything known for a spacious sound.  I am currently experiencing this problem right now with my HE500.  I simply cannot find a reasonably priced amplifier with exceptionally large sound qualities that will make the HE500 shine.  The E9 falls short, but provides plenty of volume, again even the Fiio E10 dac/amp provides sufficient volume.  I think the Lyr is overkill.

Try changing out the default OPA2134 OP-amps with another opamp. The fiio E9 does have Dip-8 sockets for opamp rolling. Thats what I did to my Fiio E9. When I didnt like the stock opamps. I changed them.
 

 

post #1114 of 1316
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Originally Posted by Voohoo View Post

Dude...EF-5.


Dude...the Ef5 is $500 and the E9 is $95

 

post #1115 of 1316
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Originally Posted by swbf2cheater View Post


Dude...the Ef5 is $500 and the E9 is $95

 



True. You mentioned the Lyr, so I mentioned the EF-5. 

 

If you're not satisfied with your budget setup, then you're going to have to be willing to shell out more $$. Such is the way of the audiophile. I remembered when I refused to pay more than $30 for an amp. So I got a FiiO E5, naturally.

 

If you're willing to extend your budget to ~$200, the Audio-GD NFB-12 might be what you're looking for. It's got a robust amping section, roughly 2x as powerful as the E9 I believe. This should help give you that dynamic control you are looking for. Also, members in the NFB-12 thread claim that the NFB-12 is more full sounding than the FiiO E9+E7 combo.

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If you're willing to extend your budget to ~$200, the Audio-GD NFB-12 might be what you're looking for. It's got a robust amping section, roughly 2x as powerful as the E9 I believe. This should help give you that dynamic control you are looking for. Also, members in the NFB-12 thread claim that the NFB-12 is more full sounding than the FiiO E9+E7 combo.


 

And for another POV on the NFB-12:

 

http://www.headfonia.com/no-music-audio-gd-nfb-12/

 

I've never heard any of the Audio-gd gear, but there is a very vocal fanbase here, so I'll leave it there. For the price, I dont know of another amp that can touch the E9 for power, and personally I enjoy what it does with each of my sources, but we arent talking Leben : some of us need to keep our expecations in check. 

 

 

post #1117 of 1316

Noisy power adapter !!

 

Been using the E9 for a week and when on standby there is a loud high pitched buzzing sound coming from the power adapter. When the knob is turned on the sound completely disappears. Because of this I've been leaving the amp on as it's not easy getting to the wall plug to turn it off.

 

Does anyone else's power adapter make a buzzing sound or is mine faulty?

 

Thanks

post #1118 of 1316

Try to put a ferrite clamp on the power adapter cable, near the plug that connects to the amplifier. This might help, if it isn't a faulty power adapter... wink.gif
 

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Noisy power adapter !!

 

Been using the E9 for a week and when on standby there is a loud high pitched buzzing sound coming from the power adapter. When the knob is turned on the sound completely disappears. Because of this I've been leaving the amp on as it's not easy getting to the wall plug to turn it off.

 

Does anyone else's power adapter make a buzzing sound or is mine faulty?

 

Thanks



 

post #1119 of 1316

Anyone here that actually has done opamp rolling on the E9 can tell me wich opamp's are a real upgrade over the three stock OPA2134? rolleyes.gif

 

 

Thanks.

post #1120 of 1316
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Originally Posted by Digital-Pride View Post

Whoops, I meant headphone amps(proof reading failtongue.gif).  Okay, I see where you're coming from.  While the E9 maybe a bit complex in design, I disagree that it doesn't sound good.  The E9 really doesn't impart much on the incoming analog signal besides more voltage and wattage. It is neutral to its source.  So connect a good source to it and you get good sound and vice versa.  Like I said before it's not perfect, I found it to be a bit dry and lacking a bit of musical especially in the midrange.  Have you tried it with better sources?

E9 seams to be neutral - "neutrality" is not a problem, but lack of the sound. It loses all of the sound really IS, it loses resolution, deatils, space, air, stage, musicality, life, everything I like. FiiO E9 is low-end equipment with enough power to drive the phones but in bad, bad manner. A term "dry" doesn't describe the bad side of E9 strong enough. If swapping of op-amps helps, there will be some hope for FiiO E9. Sorry smile.gif.


Edited by borizm - 12/28/11 at 11:23am
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E9 seams to be neutral - "neutrality" is not a problem, but lack of the sound. It loses all of the sound really IS, it loses resolution, deatils, space, air, stage, musicality, life, everything I like. FiiO E9 is low-end equipment with enough power to drive the phones but in bad, bad manner. A term "dry" doesn't describe the bad side of E9 strong enough. If swapping of op-amps helps, there will be some hope for FiiO E9. Sorry smile.gif.



I believe we'll just have to agree to disagree.smily_headphones1.gif

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I believe we'll just have to agree to disagree.smily_headphones1.gif


+1, and anyone who wants 'higher end' sound need only get out their credit card. I just dont understand people bagging Fiio kit when there are so many other choices out there - must be a hipster thing.

 

post #1123 of 1316
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Originally Posted by putente View Post

Anyone here that actually has done opamp rolling on the E9 can tell me wich opamp's are a real upgrade over the three stock OPA2134? rolleyes.gif

 

 

Thanks.


 

For me any other op-amp was. I tried many different ones in my Fiio E9. If you use a dual to single op-amp adapter it gotta be a small one. But you mostly will have to use dual channel op-amps for the Headphone dip-8 socket. Two is used for the rear RCA's While one is used for the Front headphone outputs. So if you just using the headphones outputs. Then the op-amp socket directly behind the Headphone plug is the one you roll out.  The thing is I was trying out so many op-amps on mine that I strip couple of the screws.  But yea the Fiio E9 uses Torx T5 screws, so you need that screw drivers. You also need to pull off the volume knob. it comes right on off. Then unscrew the nut. You def gonna need something that angled enough so you can left the op-amp up. You gonna need alot of light as you gonna need to see if you wanna put a op-amp in.

 

I tried LME49860NA, LT1361,LT1364,LT1057ACN8,OPA2111AM(metal Can), and a bunch of other ones, When I was trying out combos with the op-amps in my sound card with the one in the Fiio E9.  op-amps from Audio-GD will not fit in the Fiio E9 as there too bit and because the case is small.


Edited by genclaymore - 12/28/11 at 9:52pm
post #1124 of 1316

Hmmm... Are there any opamps that I might try to roll, that don't require the use of any kind of adapter (straight swap)? 
 

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For me any other op-amp was. I tried many different ones in my Fiio E9. If you use a dual to single op-amp adapter it gotta be a small one. But you mostly will have to use dual channel op-amps for the Headphone dip-8 socket. Two is used for the rear RCA's While one is used for the Front headphone outputs. So if you just using the headphones outputs. Then the op-amp socket directly behind the Headphone plug is the one you roll out.  The thing is I was trying out so many op-amps on mine that I strip couple of the screws.  But yea the Fiio E9 uses Torx T5 screws, so you need that screw drivers. You also need to pull off the volume knob. it comes right on off. Then unscrew the nut. You def gonna need something that angled enough so you can left the op-amp up. You gonna need alot of light as you gonna need to see if you wanna put a op-amp in.

 

I tried LME49860NA, LT1361,LT1364,LT1057ACN8,OPA2111AM(metal Can), and a bunch of other ones, When I was trying out combos with the op-amps in my sound card with the one in the Fiio E9.  op-amps from Audio-GD will not fit in the Fiio E9 as there too bit and because the case is small.



 

post #1125 of 1316

Other then the OPA2111AM, The others can just be slot in as they're DIp-8 and are dual channel op-amps. The OPA2111AM I mention are Soic and the only ones I mentioned that needs a adapter. Also if you do it make sure the op-amps  are installed in the right direction. The  Dip-8 sockets has a U pointing to the right direction. That's the circle on the op-amps should face.

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