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Monster Turbine Pro-Copper: Audio perfection has been achieved.

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The story

 

Well I don't keep track of time. Or anything, really.

 

Have the Pro-Gold for a while now, maybe a year and a half? Look, I seriously can't remember these things, very poor memory. Got into a bit of a problem with one of the CBP or TSA or DHS agents a while ago, when he asked me when I got my Canadian citizenship while refusing to look at my citizenship card.

 

Anyway.

 

So after some listenings with the Gold, I find myself in need of some more clarity. At one point I sold my Pod to return to the good ol' CD's, using more or less vintage PCDPs, the Gold sounds gradually darker and less detailed than what I'd like. Back then I was thinking of some sort of a "portable DT880", with soaring highs and ramming bass. Wouldn't it be nice to install ramming horns on a Hemi Ram?

 

Did have an amount of money at my disposal, but I didn't feel comfortable shopping online anymore after the ALO ordeal (totally my own fault) and waiting 2 weeks for a diecast car. And I was right: Gorram it, not long after that my CC was scammed. Telstra Melbourne. Ring a bell?

 

Got a new card, charge-back, that that and that. So the Coppers showed up at my local Future Stop.

 

So the Copper is supposed to be "reference" quality. Supposed to be full of little details and very clear on the highs. Was deciding on either this or a Tamiya Enzo for Christmas, but what the Heck. Coppers, I'll be enjoying them daily; the Enzo is only good parked on the top of my closet. Plus I already have an F40. And I can't find a decent Superbird.

 

Yes I do have a tendency to drift off to whatever subject that comes to mind when I write stuff.

 

Have the SE530, heard that and finally understood the phrase "one man's treasure is another man's junk". Yeah the SE530 was very highly rated across the freakin' world when it came out, and for a very long time. But I just don't get it, music was very muddy with few details, no highs yet the bass is hollow. I have a severe pan/balance issue with the T.F 10, and I can't get Westones in person. So here we go, Turbine Pro-Coppers.

 

More story

 

The box is still the same as the Gold, but without the flashy SuperTips sticker.

 

Inside you find the phones, regular silicon tips, triple-flange tips, and packs of both types of SuperTips. Not sure about the Foam variant, but Monster sure redesigned the Gel SuperTips: compared to the free ones sent from SoundMatters12 (thank you), the new ones are colored (well, shades of silver-grey), are less filled with gel and is a bit sticky to the touch. Interestingly, while being sticky on the fingers, the new ones don't picked up dust. As in at all.

 

Um. Revolver eartip holder. The included one feels cheaper than an older one I obtained from Monster Canada. This new one is thinner on the silicon, so Monster figured out a way to save some cash.

 

Also a couple of new bookets on the SuperTips and customer support and stuff.

 

The phones themselves, well, I can only shoot you my own feelings. First up they look second-class. The red copper plating is of a good color, with good depth and lush, but together with the shiny chrome it looks cheap. The Gold, on the other hand, with all the nice shiny Gold and black chrome looks top-notch, as in something that would come with a Bentley.

Strain relieves on the earbud bodies are very stiff, stiffer than that of the Gold. The cable is smooth, they sure changed the outer casing. It is now much easier to slide the cable slider. Maybe a bit too easy.

 

The sound

 

First up the fit with the new Gel SuperTips is much better than the older ones. I use the very biggest pair. Insertion is much easier and isolation is better. Scary part is the removal. They seal so tight that there is a great vacuum force when you try to pull them straight out: you gotta pull your ear lobe upwards, than twist and pull the IEM slowly to remove. And my ears are fine: I don't feel any discomfort, no bulge, no burning, no plugged sensation.

 

(The following is my impression right out of the box. Because I do not believe in burn-in, even if Monster suggests so in their booklet.)

 

Equipment: Sony Discman D-33, MB-NORMAL, volume at around 3.6.

 

First the Copper is more sensitive (or less resistant) than the Gold. You hear the little bit of buzzes of the CD player working.

 

First track is Nelly Furtado's Bajo Otra Luz. So whoa the bass. If people say the Gold is a bass monster, tell them to listen to the Copper. The bass is definitely tighter, but it can be too much so for some music. I don't think cellos are going to sound best with the Copper due to the lack of some of the nice reverb and decay found in the Gold. But I can say the the Copper is more "precise" and "accurate" in that regard.

 

Mids, well, is very much like Ben Affleck's appeal: practically non-existent, but still there somehow. Compared to the Gold, vocals have more details indeed, but sounds a bit sharper yet is somewhat recessed. With the Gold I did consider the mids being forward, so there's gonna be a period of getting used to here. The mids is something that you need to focus on: you can miss out if you don't listen for it. This is pretty much like my DT880's mids: you gotta look for it, and once you do, you are rewarded with awesomeness. Although I have to say, Nelly Furtado does sound younger. But seems the CK10 is worse, so.

 

Highs. Here's the good part. Remember a while ago, my D-33 impressions, when I said the treble sparkled with the Gold? It is even more so with the Copper. With the Gold I was looking for more extension, with the Coppers I have found it. When you have a good track with bass, vocals and treble, you'll get to know the Copper. Bass rams real hard, but is extremely well isolated from the rest yet it doesn't feel dislocated. You listen to the lyrics and you feel the treble opening everything up. The Copper has a more natural sound stage than the Gold, though it is not necessarily "bigger".

 

The conclusion

 

Monster sure is taking the Turbine Pros very seriously. To my ears, the Copper is the best universal IEM I have ever heard, period. They're ahead of the Gold, and they step on the SE530 so very very hard. Although I believe the bass to be too much for really serious music production monitoring work, the Copper do deliver my definition of audio perfection: Bass that hits oh-so hard, while not disturbing the mildly recessed mids, together with a bright, near-limitless treble that stands out. Plus having unbelievable detail and resolution to boot. Thanks, Monster. After the whole Beats ordeal, you sure are doing something extremely right.

 

For this price range, you have, well, the Sennheiser IE 8 as main competition (Sony's EX700 is much cheaper). While not being able to insert the IE 8 into my ears (square body? Seriously, Sennheiser?), I can't see any dynamic IEMs, even downright any IEMs, beating the Coppers (to my ears) at this price point. I guess the highest you can go is custom, I wanted some when I was listening to the Gold. Now I don't. Seriously go get these. You have 30 days to return, anyway.

 

On an unrelated side note, Sony's new exospheric EX1000 is selling for $800 US on AudioCubes. Wonder how those sound.

 

Chime in, guys. My quest for audio prefection has pretty much ended.

 

Edited by 3602 - 11/6/10 at 7:15pm
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fer realz?

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fer realz?



:facebrick:

Listen, pal, if you got somethin' against me then better just come out and say it. Now how 'bout that?

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Glad you liked the coppers. I'm a huge fan of the regular, non-pro turbines. I'm thinking of selling my triple fis and getting the coppers or maybe the new gr10s

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reading that post was a pain... Can't you add some lines between paragraphs??

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:facebrick:

Listen, pal, if you got somethin' against me then better just come out and say it. Now how 'bout that?



facebrick? Awesome.

 

I really enjoy my coppers. I find the fit to be a bit of an issue sometimes, with minor corrections leading to the sound opening and clearing up a lot. Also, they improve quite a bit with the use of an amp for lower-volume listening. I like the cohesive sound and treble extention and energy and overall balance.

 

ps You might want to edit your review and add an empty line or two between paragraphs for easier reading.


Edited by Kunlun - 11/6/10 at 6:47pm
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facebrick? Awesome.

 

I really enjoy my coppers. I find the fit to be a bit of an issue sometimes, with minor corrections leading to the sound opening and clearing up a lot. Also, they improve quite a bit with the use of an amp for lower-volume listening. I like the cohesive sound and treble extention and energy and overall balance.

 

ps You might want to edit your review and add an empty line or two between paragraphs for easier reading.


 

Ah. It is quite difficult to lug an amp around with a huge CD player in you hand(s). Trust me. I tried. I don't carry a bag when I go out.

Also yeah. did clear up the paragraphs. I guess not everyone is used to reading tiny lines to text in papers nowadays.

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