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Very Very True,there are reviewers(Self Appointed) who do purchase gear for reviews at its true value (around 80% less than RRP) who afterwards onsell the item at a profit in order to sustain there review site.

 

The whole Industry needs to take a good look at itself.There are only so many suckers to sell to.



Wow, I am stunnned...no payment for the written review but an 80% discount off retail pricing...unless one loves to write and see his/her name in print, there is absolutely no incentive to write a negative review.  If a component sounds lousy, why waste the time writing about it?  Just send it back to the manufacturer. 

post #32 of 68

My sympathies to your history professor...

 

I am aware of how advertising works...most of it is not as blatantly quid pro quo as it is on 6moons. 

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It would then not please you that i am trying to model my own professional writing style off his. My History Senior Seminar proffessor did not like it either, she told me to change it... sucks to be her.



Of course there is a relationship between the advertisements on 6moons and the reviews that go well. How do you think advertising works, randomly place adds and see what sticks? I doubt that Firestone will be advertising on his website.

 
post #33 of 68
kboe, you should listen to your professor. You don't want to be like Srajan. Overwriting might impress the easily impressed, but no one else will take you seriously.
post #34 of 68

She was actually really, really impressed with the content and my intended argument, but thought my writing was simply not formal enough to be taken seriously.  We discussed it and settled on what would happen.  I'm not changing my writing style, not for her or anyone else, because not everyone has to read it, nor like it, appreciate it or enjoy it.  But because she has to read it, it I'll cost me in my grade to keep this less than formal, more communicative approach.  Im fine though thank you.

post #35 of 68

I think 6Moons is fine. I don't agree with everything written there, but they have done a decent job at finding interesting audio that people can actually afford - yes, I know they also review expensive stuff.

 

As for the writing on 6Moons, you may not like it, but it's better written than a lot of what you find on audio sites. By that I mean the mechanics: not many typos, basic grammar, complete sentences and when a reviewer is on his game, a style that flows from what he's talking about.

 

s.


Edited by satkinsn - 11/8/10 at 4:42pm
post #36 of 68
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If there is one area where I would like to see every review include a rating its VFM. I dont just mean budget gear - while I am unlikely to be spending 10K on a phono stage, its still 'value for money' if the reviewer feels that it is right up there with the best in its class. The other side of that coin is that a $99 DAC will, almost inevitably, be 'value for money' but may quickly be discarded when the new owner realises that there are a number of sub-$500 DACs which may actually be 3-4 times as capable as his bargain DAC. I still feel that audio, like drag racing, is a pursuit where 90% of your budget goes into finding that last 10% - unlike drag racing, you dont run the risk of finding the internals of your new toy spread over a quarter mile in an oily slick smily_headphones1.gif

post #37 of 68

I really loved 6moons reviews, until I read enough that I realized everything they reviewed was the best bang for the buck product at whatever price point is was...

post #38 of 68

What really put me off 6moons was the Kingrex Headquarters review, which, in the pages and pages of waffle about Kingrex, had only a single sentence on the on how it sounded.

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Originally Posted by estreeter View Post

If there is one area where I would like to see every review include a rating its VFM. I dont just mean budget gear - while I am unlikely to be spending 10K on a phono stage, its still 'value for money' if the reviewer feels that it is right up there with the best in its class. The other side of that coin is that a $99 DAC will, almost inevitably, be 'value for money' but may quickly be discarded when the new owner realises that there are a number of sub-$500 DACs which may actually be 3-4 times as capable as his bargain DAC. I still feel that audio, like drag racing, is a pursuit where 90% of your budget goes into finding that last 10% - unlike drag racing, you dont run the risk of finding the internals of your new toy spread over a quarter mile in an oily slick smily_headphones1.gif


And 6M can do a good job of making your exact point. Fr'instance, the 2009 review of the Calyx Kong noted, in what was a generally favorable review:

 

The converters built into the Peachtree and Stello units had plainly more drive, presence and focus. They also expanded the soundstage particularly in the depth domain. Ambiance like hall sound surrounding a singer's voice improved significantly, exactly what higher resolution should buy. Everything got bigger, more substantial and meaningful. Outclassing a $150 unit without dedicated power supply (i.e. running exclusively off the 5V power line inside the USB cable) with two that benefit from dedicated supplies and class A output stages admittedly was a cheap and dirty trick. It simply demonstrated the limits of the Calyx within a bigger, far more expensive picture.
 


I think that's a fairly nuanced view of where the DAC/amp in question sits. I got from it - decent piece of work, but don't expect too much. That's not bad, as reviewing goes.

 

s.

post #40 of 68

Some people are just grumpy turds, no matter the topic.  Nothing you can do about them though.  Enjoy your reading, music, gear and thoughts, no matter what the grumpy turds say!  To the turds, enjoy your poverty!


Edited by kboe - 11/8/10 at 5:40pm
post #41 of 68
Re-reading a "folksy" approach a few years on will make you cringe.

The point of writing is effective communication with an intended audience. It is not to show off. That makes the author look insecure or narcissistic.
post #42 of 68


Actually it would be the opposite.  A good review, article, book or paper is meant to put forward an argument, be it education, entertainment, or whatever, and to do so in a way that displays competence, understanding of the breadth of the topic, and the writing skills of the author.  Any writing that does these to a lesser degree is not great writing.  I can not fault 6moons in any of these categories.  It may not be your cup of tea, or how you would write a review, but it is an effective means of conveying the material.  Ive owned a few of Srajans review items that pertain to our headfi world, and find him to be dead on with his commentary.    

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Re-reading a "folksy" approach a few years on will make you cringe.

The point of writing is effective communication with an intended audience. It is not to show off. That makes the author look insecure or narcissistic.

Edited by kboe - 11/8/10 at 6:28pm
post #43 of 68

Well UE, yes and no.

 

If your point is - writing should say what it has to say and then get out of the way, agreed. And forced *folksiness,* like any other kind of affectation, isn't good. OTOH, not all informality is bad informality: sometimes it lets you make a point faster and more pungently than you would otherwise.

 

s.


Edited by satkinsn - 11/8/10 at 6:25pm
post #44 of 68

I'm with you on this. Sentences that seem to have 100 words in them is not what I'd call effective communication. 5 adjectives per noun is poor as well. Good reviews are succinct!

 

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Originally Posted by Uncle Erik View Post

Re-reading a "folksy" approach a few years on will make you cringe.

The point of writing is effective communication with an intended audience. It is not to show off. That makes the author look insecure or narcissistic.

Edited by MomijiTMO - 11/9/10 at 5:16am
post #45 of 68

don't see a problem with 6moons. lot of good info in the reviews. try getting published first. then you can criticize others.

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