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post #1 of 117
Thread Starter 

First off, I'm new. I just bought HD650's and I'm trying to get the money together for a WA2.

 

 

The HD650's aren't even worth listening to when I plug them straight into my macair, but hey, I've

got them in anyway and downloaded the AMARRA demo.

 

my thoughts:

 

hey, this AMARRA did something good for the naked core-audio/apple sound...

it still doesn't sound "good" without an amp, but this AMARRA really boosted the volume up

and thickened the sound to where I can actually listen to a whole song....

 

i didn't WANT to like the amarra, but if it sounds THIS GOOD without an amp coming out of it,

i can't wait until i hook up the woo.

 

 

 

macbook air > amarra demo > apogee one > hd650

 

 

 

 

post #2 of 117

I've also tried the PureMusic software and find Amarra to be a much better product.  Its one of those things where when you first try it out you think, "what the heck, thats all it does, thats it!".  But then turn it off and your like "Ohhhhhh, so THATS what it does!!!"

 

Hows that for subjectivity for ya!

post #3 of 117

On a more serious not, I would agree that its density that is mostly effected.

post #4 of 117
Thread Starter 

Hey Kboe, 

 

I'm glad you mentioned that it was better than PURE MUSIC. You saved me a night of

switch back&forth&back&forth....

post #5 of 117

Puremusic does a little clearing up of the signal, but nothing like Amarra.

post #6 of 117

Not disagreeing with kboe, but the perception of sound quality is very subjective.  Taking the time to listen to different options can not be supplemented by others opinions.....ie listen for yourself and decide. 

 

Nice gear btw kboe, that headamp is awesome.


Edited by Dynobot - 11/4/10 at 6:22am
post #7 of 117
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Originally Posted by Dynobot View Post


Not disagreeing with kboe, but the perception of sound quality is very subjective.  Taking the time to listen to different options can not be supplemented by others opinions.....ie listen for yourself and decide. 



 



Nice gear btw kboe, that headamp is awesome.





I don't think were in disagreement. There is indeed no substitute for exploration yourself.
post #8 of 117

I would also recommend, when exploring for yourself, that you seriously explore the possibility that you're hearing either a) what you expect to hear, or b) a slight increase in gain, nothing more.

 

Amarra and Pure Music both play native file resolution. OSX requires that you go the the midi settings and change them manually whenever you switch from redbook to hi-rez, and if you do not, it up/down converts to the setting. So Amarra and PM both have a distinct advantage when playing a mix of files, but once that switch is made to match the file, what plays in Amarra, Pure Music and iTunes is exactly the same file, the same data.

 

Is it exactly that simple? No, but it's awfully close. I'd bet the farm that under controlled conditions, listening blind, with volume properly matched, you'd never be able to ID which one you were listening to. Listen carefully. I did, and deleted the demos.

 

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Edited by Phelonious Ponk - 11/5/10 at 4:11am
post #9 of 117

Re-frying this thread.

Its the same "you can't hear the difference" argument  you'll find in the flac v 320 mp3 thread.

 

If you say you can hear the difference with flac you get jumped.  "Convert the flac with foobar2000.... ABX test 15 times....."

1) I use a Mac.   2) Have foobar2000 convert the Mp3.

 

Well guess what?

 

I can hear the difference with flac from HD Tracks and...... I can hear the difference between Amarra and Puremusic.

It's not subtle.

 

I've had Amarra for a few months, both HiFi and full Amara versions.

 

Last night I listened to PureMusic for an hour or so and thought something was not quite right.

I went back to Amarra and was blown away.  There's a big difference.

 

One thing I liked with PureMusic is the source volume control.  If you use the keyboard, iTunes slider or the slider on Apple Remote the volume changes seamlessly.

When you change the source volume using any one of the three methods it breaks up the digital stream / music.  As such I'm changing volume on the amp.

 I also liked the on the fly song queue.

 

But I'll give up all the gimmicks (level meters) for sound quality.

Amarra Rules.

post #10 of 117
Thread Starter 

Glad to see AMARRA has lowered the price.  I've been using DECIBEL lately though because I love its minimalistic interface.

 

:)

post #11 of 117

Anyone try Amarra with iTunes 11 yet?

post #12 of 117

It didn't work until I turned my Amp on.

 

Now it's playing just fine.

 

When I started Amarra HiFi it auto launched iTunes 11.

That's a start.

I'll post any glitches I run in.  Still very early

post #13 of 117

Does your Amarra work with iTunes 11?

post #14 of 117
Yes. !

Listening now

The new "Remote" app works as well.
post #15 of 117
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Originally Posted by Iamnothim View Post

Apple does not make Bit Perfect.

Incorrect. iTunes is quite easily configured to provide bit perfect playback.
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