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post #901 of 1219

Well..I've had my PS1000e headphones for a few days now and I was able to A-B them to my (now sold) PS1000s and here are some of my findings:

 

Physical Differences:

Not much to report here. The drivers are red and 50mm in the PS1000e and the cable is thicker (12 conductors vs. 8). Oh and the new models state "PS1000e" :p. Beyond that, I can't really find any differences. For a full listing of the changes, I'll simply refer you to the Grado website:

 

http://www.gradolabs.com/headphones/professional-series/item/23-ps1000e

 

PS1000 on the left and PS1000e on the right

 

Now onto the important stuff...how do they compare sonically...

 

Well, the PS1000e's have retained the classic Grado sound and they just rock! As well, they are voiced very closely to each other. Right off the bat, you'll notice that the PS1000e are slightly more efficient (99.8dB vs 98dB), so you'll have to turn down your volume knob a wee bit with the newer Grados to volume match. 

 

Some of my test tracks used:

Led Zeppelin I, II, III (new 2014 remasters)

Perfect Circle: Thirteenth Step

Pink Floyd DSoTM and WYWH (2011 remasters)

U2 Joshua Tree

 

Setup used:

CDs played through my Cambridge Audio CDP --> Bryston BDA-2 DAC --> GS-X Mk2

 

As I mentioned, both headphones sound like PS1000s, but the new "e" versions have bass that seems a bit more controlled and goes down a bit deeper. One thing that has limited Grados has been their sub-bass performance; especially when I compare them to the Audeze headphones I have on hand (LCD-X and LCD-XC), but the newer PS1000e's do an admirable job. Again, the differences between these and the original PS1000s are not night and day in this department, but during my frequency sweeps, I was happily surprised by the PS1000e's performance down low. 

 

The mids are classic Grado, yes there's a bit of a "U" with these headphones (like the PS1000s and RS1/RS1is), but the music just flows from these headphones and I can't stop smiling. :smile:

 

The treble on both the PS1000 and PS1000e was very similarly voiced to my ears and sometimes very difficult to tell the differences. So it's very hard for me to comment further on these differences. But all I can say is that the treble can be a bit much if your amp/dac/source/music is tilted that way. It's kept me away from these headphones for quite some time. Then I got to hear them in my home on my setup and all I can say is that is definitely no longer the case.

 

One area that was a bit more of a profound change was the sound staging. I was surprised to immediately hear the very good imaging capabilities of the PS1000e's. They are very expansive when called for with some orchestral music I used, but when needed with some Zeppelin or Sabbath, they were still upfront and just rocked! The PS1000s offer a very good amount of sound staging, but the PS1000e's have kicked this up a notch and aren't too far behind my HD800s in that regard.

 

Both the PS1000 and PS1000e are fantastic headphones and worthy flagships for the company. I'm pleased to see Grado continue to improve their product offerings with the new "e"nhancements. 


Edited by MacedonianHero - 6/21/14 at 6:49pm
post #902 of 1219

Thanks for that review...sounds like it is a winner for sure  :smile:

post #903 of 1219
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Originally Posted by whirlwind View Post
 

Thanks for that review...sounds like it is a winner for sure  :smile:

 

:beerchug:

post #904 of 1219
Crap now I want one...
post #905 of 1219
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Originally Posted by kvtaco17 View Post

Crap now I want one...

:D

post #906 of 1219

guess i'll have to try one out eventually...

post #907 of 1219

very nice write up

so far, from all the preliminary reports i've seen are very favorable it seems grado has really done a nice job

post #908 of 1219
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Originally Posted by jaywillin View Post
 

very nice write up

so far, from all the preliminary reports i've seen are very favorable it seems grado has really done a nice job

Thanks Jay!

post #909 of 1219

Thank you very much for your impression, MacedonianHero.

 

I'm also have LCD-X and PS1000 (chrome) and I obviously feel that PS1000 has more distortion than LCD-X that leads to sibilance problems.  Could you please comment your feeling regard to sonic distortion of PS1000e, is it better in this aspect?

 

Thanks.


Edited by chirawatf - 6/21/14 at 9:09pm
post #910 of 1219

Could you show them side-by-side driver side up with the pads off?

 

I want to see how different the new 50mm driver looks from the old 40mm one!

post #911 of 1219
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Originally Posted by chirawatf View Post
 

Thank you very much for your impression, MacedonianHero.

 

I'm also have LCD-X and PS1000 (chrome) and I obviously feel that PS1000 has more distortion than LCD-X that leads to sibilance problems.  Could you please comment your feeling regard to sonic distortion of PS1000e, is it better in this aspect?

 

Thanks.

 

If one listens at moderate or moderately loud levels, both the PS1000 and PS1000e are both fine. Crank up the volume to 90dB+, then you'll hear distortion (especially in the sub-bass region; especially when compared to the LCD-X or LCX-XC (just an advantage one has with orthos vs. traditional dynamic headphones). That said, I did hear a bit less "distortion" in the in sub-bass region with the PS1000e's.

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Originally Posted by sinnottj View Post
 

Could you show them side-by-side driver side up with the pads off?

 

I want to see how different the new 50mm driver looks from the old 40mm one!

Sorry, this is as good as it gets as the PS1000s are off to their new owner:

 

PS1000e

 

PS1000

post #912 of 1219
Is it possible to measure the front face of the ps1000e driver? The plastic housing and the open face covered in white cloth?

Has the wood sleeve gotten thinner to accommodate a 50mm driver?
post #913 of 1219
Thank you very much Peter. Seems like the difference is minimal (other than soundstage), I think I don't need to upgrade, I'm already satisfied with PS1000's soundstage.
Edited by chirawatf - 6/22/14 at 8:25pm
post #914 of 1219
The upgrade seems to be very minimal.
The differences may be from the new cable of 12 conductors.

It will be interessting to compare a PS1000 recabled vs PS1000e stock.

So i will keep my ps1000
post #915 of 1219
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Originally Posted by MacedonianHero View Post
 

 

 

Sorry, this is as good as it gets as the PS1000s are off to their new owner:

 

Ah, nevermind - thanks anyway!

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