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post #751 of 1131
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I agree that the difference between the GS and PS1000 is not major, and if the Little Dot 1+ mates as well with the GS1000 and PS500 as it does with the PS1000, you could get both headphones and the amp, for not much more money than the cost of the PS1000 alone.

I read somewhere that GS1000 are Grado for classical music lovers. I always thought of them as headphones that cater best for a genre that I don't listen to so when I started out in all this I looked at the entire Grado line but ignored GS1000 completely. Likewise I think of RS1 and the SR series as rock music cans, PS500 as a decent all rounder and PS1000 as...really overpriced.

Not saying all this is strictly true as I haven't heard anything higher up than PS500, but that's the idea I've been left with after reading lots of reviews and impressions.
Edited by Tony1110 - 9/23/13 at 2:17am
post #752 of 1131
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I read somewhere that GS1000 are Grado for classical music lovers. I always thought of them as headphones that cater best for a genre that I don't listen to so when I started out in all this I looked at the entire Grado line but ignored GS1000 completely. Likewise I think of RS1 and the SR series as rock music cans, PS500 as a decent all rounder and PS1000 as...really overpriced.

Not saying all this is strictly true as I haven't heard anything higher up than PS500, but that's the idea I've been left with after reading lots of reviews and impressions.

 

unfortunately its kinda true. 

 
though i think the GS1000 work for more than just classical, except their sound signature is just so different from the other grados, its just something u have to try out and see if you like.
 
the rest is all true imo. RS / SR is for rock mostly PS500/HF2 is more rounded, and the PS1000 should cost much much less.
post #753 of 1131

Of course the GS and PS1000 don't sound exactly the same, but for me, the GS1000 are the closest sounding to the PS1000, they both have a big soundstage, a bit resessed mids and good treble extension.

 

And about the PS1000 being overpriced, don't get me started, I think that they shouldn't cost more than $1000, the GS should go for $700, RS1i for $400, wich means that the SR325is would go for about  $100, and they should pretty much give away the SR 225i, 125i, 80i, 60i, for free.

 

Yes, that's me being sarcastic, and considering the fact that the LCD2 costs $1000, is $2000 for the LCD3, a fair price?,

post #754 of 1131
Diminishing returns kick in beyond a certain point, yes, but PS1000 is 1k more expensive than RS1 and a lot of people say that RS1 is the better headphone. I like all the Grados I've heard but they're not in the same league as the Audezes. Not even close.

I'd rather spend 2K on LCD-3 than $1700 on PS1000. Where I am the PS1000 actually cost £1700 which in American dollars equates to... $2728. Do you think that's good value? Grado rip their European customers off. The RS1 costs £900 in the UK - a fraction below the price of HD800 and more than LCD-2.
post #755 of 1131

I have heard pretty much every flagship headphones out there, including the LCD3, and as far as i'm concerned, the PS1000 can hang with any of them, and Grado asking $1700 for it's flagship is certainly not worse than the $2000 LCD asks for theirs, and remember, LCD has had their share of quality related issues.

 

You're right the PS1000 do cost $1000 more than the RS1i, both of wich, look, and sound nothing alike, but I'd like to know what you think about the LCD3, wich looks a lot like, and sound a lot more like the LCD2 and cost $1000 more.

post #756 of 1131
Lcd-3 is still kinda overpriced but not as bad as ps1000 cause at least lcd-3 can hold its own against other expensive headphones while the ps1000 imo is outperformed by many cheaper options.

Thats not to say ps1000 is a bad headphone just different and hard to recommend, someone really has to listen to it and make sure its what they really want. Its not as easy to recommend to everyone since it sounds so different from everything else and does have issues. Of course, the lcd-3 isnt perfect either...
post #757 of 1131

Well!, I guess we'll just have to agree to disagree then, it's not surprising, given the name of this thread ;)

post #758 of 1131
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Yes, that's me being sarcastic, and considering the fact that the LCD2 costs $1000, is $2000 for the LCD3, a fair price?,

 

True.  But, I think you've forgotten the weight and substance that the LCD-2 and LCD-3 provide. :D

post #759 of 1131

My Grado rep said that Grado will be reducing the size of the Grado packaging, and potentially offer nicer packaging for the flagships (not sure if that would bring up the price though). As far as I know, the box will have the retro design but just be square-shaped.

post #760 of 1131
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My Grado rep said that Grado will be reducing the size of the Grado packaging, and potentially offer nicer packaging for the flagships (not sure if that would bring up the price though). As far as I know, the box will have the retro design but just be square-shaped.

 

That will be interesting to see - given how the upper end models include the 15' extension cable and the 1/4" to 3.5mm adapter.  A whole lot of stuff to cram into a smaller package. 

post #761 of 1131
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Yes, that's me being sarcastic, and considering the fact that the LCD2 costs $1000, is $2000 for the LCD3, a fair price?,

 

Not to mention that the HD 800 is $1000 more than the HD 650, which was the next lowest Sennheiser before the arrival of the HD 700. Yes, the PS1000 cost a lot of money and are not for cost-conscious bargain-hunters. But there are those of us who love them and think they are well worth it. I've unloaded several headphones costing over a grand, but never the PS1000.

 

Since no one took me up on my challenge to speculate on the "series similarities" between the PS500 and PS1000, I decided to do some quick analysis of my own. As a reference point, I compared them to the RS2i. I think the two PS headphones share the primary characteristics of soundstage and the solidity of their imaging. When switching to the PS500 from the RS2i, I was struck by how expansive and nuanced the PS500 sounded in comparison, although that classic Grado immediacy was admittedly gone.The PS1000 obviously takes the expansiveness and nuance to the next level.  I've never cared too terribly much about tonality, so long as it's within a reasonable range, so I won't comment on that. (Plus, differences in tonality appear so personal that it's very hard to compare.) Qualities like imaging and soundstage, on the other hand, are primarily what set headphones apart for me, and I find that people's perceptions of them vary much less than tonality. Anyway, I think it's those two characteristics that set the PS models apart from the other Grados. Simplistic, perhaps, but it works for me, The GS1000i I would lump in with the PS models.

post #762 of 1131

I have owned the PS500 for about two weeks, and the only thing that i didn't like about them, was that I thought that they had a very strong mid bass presence that made female voices sound a bit chesty, for lack of a better word.

 

That being said, I can understand why the 500 get so much love, especially if someone's sound system is a little lean sounding, and lacks midbass presence, I guess it must even things out nicely.

 

As expensive as the PS1000 are, I've never regretted upgrading from the PS500.

post #763 of 1131
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That being said, I can understand why the 500 get so much love, especially if someone's sound system is a little lean sounding, and lacks midbass presence, I guess it must even things out nicely.

 

They really are great. I'm a big fan of the Professional Series. I originally bought the PS500 mainly to audition them and see how they related to the PS1000, and thought I'd probably sell them after a month or so -- but I think I'm going to have a hard time letting them go. I really like the relative comfort and lightness compared to the PS1000. It's just a much easier headphone for casual use. Getting the PS1000 out and on, and then back in its box, is something of a production, and I'm always conscious of them being on my head.

post #764 of 1131

I agree, for me, the PS1000's weight is the only thing that bothers me about them. I leave mine flat on a shelf, so that the weight of the cups don't losen up the holes in the blocks. Come to think of it, that's another thing I don't like about them. They should've used a metal block with a screw going through it, like they did on the HP1000.

 

My GS1000 don't get much head time ever since I bought the PS1000, but everytime I use them, I'm amazed at how light and comfortable they are, and mine are the first gen, non ''i'' model, so even the cable is lighter, by the way i do, preffer the sound of the newer ''i'' model, I think that they sound a little more like the PS1000 than the old ones.

post #765 of 1131

i'm in the middle of acquiring these headphones, with a 2 month pay-plan.

 

really excited, but at this moment i don't have a good amp yet...

i'll browse through the thread and see some suggestions for sure :)

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