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post #691 of 3409

yeah

post #692 of 3409

Are you running them from OTL amp?

 

THX

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yeah

post #693 of 3409

no. the WA2 doesn't work too well with PS1000 cause of the low impedance.

post #694 of 3409

With Grado's, its all about current, so, low impedance is not a problem here.

 

THX 

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no. the WA2 doesn't work too well with PS1000 cause of the low impedance.

post #695 of 3409
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yes, i'll have to listen later tonight or tomorrow though.

 

unfortunately, all this testing (since some is done at louder volumes), does cause some hearing fatigue. the grados are quite bright to me, more than 325 (different kinda of brightness, i find ps1000 to be more sibilant and glary, but not as sharp as 325). i find that it actually hurts my ears, i guess im just sensitive to that 10k peak. so i gotta listen later once my hearing returns to normal, to make sure what i'm hearing is actual warmth rather than just being temporarily desensitized to the treble.

 

anyways, seems like the winners are the EML 5U4G and the 6EW7. the 6EW7 is very smooth and tubey, but with a wide soundstage, its not closed in like the 6DE7, which muffles the already recessed mids of the PS1000. the EML is full sounding and warm, but detailed and clean, with great bass, the mids aren't recessed on it like the 5R4GY or even the mullard GZ37 which lacks bass and PRaT.

 

right now with these tubes, the sound is very similar to the Grado RS1 flats, but not shouty in the mids, very full sounding warm, the bass is very strong, but fun and not bleeding into the mids, just a very lush sound overall. the detail is unfortunately reduced, but not any more than the original RS1. the soundstage is great. also the headphones seem more transparent without the treble harshness, sounds really true to the grado sound, warm and musical.  i do wish they had a tiny bit more treble though, the highs are a little bit too rolled off at some points.  happy that the bass is as good as it sounds though, as well as the mids not being recessed as with the other tubes.

 

more to come later, still not sure if these are worth it, but i am surprised as how much they changed. from a dryer 325is kinda sound to a thick sounding RS1 kinda sound, this is much closer to what i was looking for.

 

 

I'm looking forward to the "more to come later" part of this post and I'm super-glad to hear that you've had some success. I've been listening to my PS1000's on my WA6-SE for a few months now, bouncing back and forth between the stock rectifier and sophia princess, all while using stock driver tubes. This week I ordered every driver tube option on Jack's site, just to see for myself if I could find a better tube combination. They should arrive early next week. This will be my first time rolling tubes, so I'll let you guys know how it goes.

post #696 of 3409
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I'm looking forward to the "more to come later" part of this post and I'm super-glad to hear that you've had some success. I've been listening to my PS1000's on my WA6-SE for a few months now, bouncing back and forth between the stock rectifier and sophia princess, all while using stock driver tubes. This week I ordered every driver tube option on Jack's site, just to see for myself if I could find a better tube combination. They should arrive early next week. This will be my first time rolling tubes, so I'll let you guys know how it goes.

 

 

EML + 6EW7 sounds pretty good.

 

but i hate to say, this is the follow up. i'm returning them. they're simply too expensive for me to justify their cost, and i'll be using the money to upgrade to a Headamp GS-X Mk2.

 

if you're a hardcore grado fan and want a sound similar to the 325is but with more bass and soundstage, these are the ones to get. especially if you could care less about the price. if you have treble hearing loss and want a little more treble energy, these are it. if you love a really aggressive forward sound, these are it. 

 

if you like the RS1i (like me, i'll probably be re-buying these not to long from now), then get those. 

 

the PS1000 are way different from the other grados except the 325is, which they are similar.

 

they are more detailed, and have a really unique sound to them, but not by much. and for the price, there are certainly better options. the grado issue is that they're so limited in genres, well recorded audiophile and well recorded rock and jazz is mostly it. the bass is very natural with great decay typical of grados, with tubes and warm amps, the mids come out and become fuller. the treble is still there but less biting. however, the bass still rolls off, the mids are still recessed and lack the resolution and transparency of other similar priced headphones, and the highs can be quite sibilant and bright depending on the recording. these are very sensitive to placement, and just a little adjustment on the rods or pads can be a huge difference. also they are very picky with amping, and are harder to drive than the lower impedance grados, tbh, i find them to be almost as hard to drive as an audeze or akg. i feel like i have to turn up the volume more than normal. ok maybe not that hard to drive, but for sure more than other grados.

 

overall, i am selling them because with the tubes/amp i chose, i got the sound i wanted, warmer and still aggressive, however, its basically the same as a Grado Rs1i, but with better soundstage, a little more bass, and a little brighter. 

 

the RS1i can do the same thing for $1000 less. 

 

if you love chrome and love grado, get these though. make sure to audition them, maybe i'm just more treble sensitive to that 10k peak than others, so ultimately, its up to you to decide if you want them or not.


Edited by Dubstep Girl - 9/4/13 at 7:45pm
post #697 of 3409
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Originally Posted by Dubstep Girl View Post
 

 

 

EML + 6EW7 sounds pretty good.

 

but i hate to say, this is the follow up. i'm returning them. they're simply too expensive for me to justify their cost, and i'll be using the money to upgrade to a Headamp GS-X Mk2.

 

if you're a hardcore grado fan and want a sound similar to the 325is but with more bass and soundstage, these are the ones to get. especially if you could care less about the price. if you have treble hearing loss and want a little more treble energy, these are it. if you love a really aggressive forward sound, these are it. 

 

if you like the RS1i (like me, i'll probably be re-buying these not to long from now), then get those. 

 

the PS1000 are way different from the other grados except the 325is, which they are similar.

 

they are more detailed, and have a really unique sound to them, but not by much. and for the price, there are certainly better options. the grado issue is that they're so limited in genres, well recorded audiophile and well recorded rock and jazz is mostly it. the bass is very natural with great decay typical of grados, with tubes and warm amps, the mids come out and become fuller. the treble is still there but less biting. however, the bass still rolls off, the mids are still recessed and lack the resolution and transparency of other similar priced headphones, and the highs can be quite sibilant and bright depending on the recording. these are very sensitive to placement, and just a little adjustment on the rods or pads can be a huge difference. also they are very picky with amping, and are harder to drive than the lower impedance grados, tbh, i find them to be almost as hard to drive as an audeze or akg. i feel like i have to turn up the volume more than normal. ok maybe not that hard to drive, but for sure more than other grados.

 

overall, i am selling them because with the tubes/amp i chose, i got the sound i wanted, warmer and still aggressive, however, its basically the same as a Grado Rs1i, but with better soundstage, a little more bass, and a little brighter. 

 

the RS1i can do the same thing for $1000 less. 

 

if you love chrome and love grado, get these though. make sure to audition them, maybe i'm just more treble sensitive to that 10k peak than others, so ultimately, its up to you to decide if you want them or not.

well stated, thanks for all the impressions. there was some good reading on this thread the last few weeks. 

post #698 of 3409
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...so ultimately, its up to you to decide if you want them or not.

 

Of all the money I have spent on this hobby over the years, I have never regretted the money I spent on these. Of course, I don't hear them much like you describe anyway. Yes, the SR325is can seem "aggressive" and "forward" to me, but the PS1000? Never heard that once over the course of the years I have owned them. Perhaps it's the chrome.

post #699 of 3409

they weren't like that the first time i heard them. they where the older non-chrome version. those seemed warm and fun sounding. 

 

i'm not sure if i got a bad pair, if there where any changes to the driver since then, or if i'm just sensitive to their treble peak.

post #700 of 3409
There is definitely something different between earlier and present production, I have had the same experience, matte vs. chrome. Folks can keep ignore that, not my care at all. And no, you didnt got bad pair, cos you did try to tune your amp with tube rolling with good results, so, its just how they are, period.


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Originally Posted by Dubstep Girl View Post

they weren't like that the first time i heard them. they where the older non-chrome version. those seemed warm and fun sounding. 

i'm not sure if i got a bad pair, if there where any changes to the driver since then, or if i'm just sensitive to their treble peak.
post #701 of 3409

@ Dustep Girl

 

A year ago I sold my non chrome PS1000 (#839) and this year I bought back the chrome PS1000 (#1852).

From my memory they both have the same piercing treble at the beginning.

My chrome ps1000 has warm full sound with sparkling pleasant treble after I keep using it for 6 months.

In my present setup HD800 treble is more irritating than PS1000.

I think your PS1000 need far more time to reach it's full potential.

 

For my HD800 that I've just purchase used last month may also need more usage time too.

 

PS: Please write your impression about your PS1000 with your incoming silver GS-X MK II.

 

Thanks

Chirawat.

post #702 of 3409
I wish i could, returning the PS1000 though to buy the GSX, and to also buy an He-6 as well

A grado rs1i might be on the list too though, i have been interested in rebuying it

I should have the gsx early next week or so
Edited by Dubstep Girl - 9/5/13 at 6:28am
post #703 of 3409
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I wish i could, returning the PS1000 though to buy the GSX, and to also buy an He-6 as well

A grado rs1i might be on the list too though, i have been interested in rebuying it

I should have the gsx early next week or so

will you sell the HE500 if you get the 6?

post #704 of 3409
Potentially. Also, it looks like i will need to upgrade cables on my planars and maybe hd 800, so there will be some cables for sale.

The he-500 will be sold only if i feel the he-6 is better in every way, and can sound just as good with electronic music. Otherwise it may be kept
post #705 of 3409
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Potentially. Also, it looks like i will need to upgrade cables on my planars and maybe hd 800, so there will be some cables for sale.

The he-500 will be sold only if i feel the he-6 is better in every way, and can sound just as good with electronic music. Otherwise it may be kept

It should be much better

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