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post #1066 of 1234

I can just imagine the reaction of someone who's visiting Head-Fi for the first time, and starts reading these last few posts.

post #1067 of 1234

If they’re hitting head-fi for the very first time and the first place they go is the PS1000 impressions thread, then I think they’re cool enough to understand the art of canary-rolling.

post #1068 of 1234

You're right LC, for some reason, I thought that this was that the Grado fan club thread,

post #1069 of 1234

Quick update. changing the stock Sovtek tube to an old Valvo slanted getter on the Ear+ improved bass response a bit - there’s less boominess and it’s a bit tighter.

 

It’s still clearly “fun" PS1000 bass and not HD800 bass but it’s a nice improvement that reduces the sloppy boominess around some acoustic bass, cello or very low piano notes. I no longer feel the need to EQ the 100 Hz band down a bit. nice.

post #1070 of 1234

So the PS1k has boomy bass? I've always really liked the Grado bass...it's not as tight as an Audeze low end, but I've always felt it was pretty clean. Why would the Grado flagship deviate from this? 

post #1071 of 1234

Don't forget Focker, this is all subjective, what one man descibes as boomy bass, might sound perfect for you. Also I find that tube amps tend to have a bit less control over lower frequencys.

post #1072 of 1234

When I owned the PS1K's, I found the bass was only a bit boomy prior to break-in…afterwards the bass was tight, even with a tube amp…so I thought it was fine.

BTW, even though I preferred the RS1i's to the PS1K's…I do miss them!

post #1073 of 1234

the ps1000 has more boost at 100 Hz that the RS1. There’s also a fairly large amount of distortion in the bass compared to an Audeze. And this can make a bit of a boomy, muddy sound for some instruments at some times with some equipment.

 

And while I suppose it’s possible that some people would think it’s perfect, I don’t believe we all hear that differently that one person wouldn’t hear it on this equipment.

 

On the stock Ear+, there was some boomniess, as I described in previous posts here. Now, with a better driver tube, it’s reduced. perhaps if driven from a GS-X or Taurus, there’d be less still. But the headphone’s 100 Hz bump means it has potential to sound boomy from any amp.

post #1074 of 1234
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Originally Posted by LCfiner View Post
 

the ps1000 has more boost at 100 Hz that the RS1. There’s also a fairly large amount of distortion in the bass compared to an Audeze. And this can make a bit of a boomy, muddy sound for some instruments at some times with some equipment.

 

And while I suppose it’s possible that some people would think it’s perfect, I don’t believe we all hear that differently that one person wouldn’t hear it on this equipment.

 

On the stock Ear+, there was some boomniess, as I described in previous posts here. Now, with a better driver tube, it’s reduced. perhaps if driven from a GS-X or Taurus, there’d be less still. But the headphone’s 100 Hz bump means it has potential to sound boomy from any amp.

As you must know, nothing's perfect, not even Audez'e.

post #1075 of 1234

Naturally, but I think it’s a useful point of comparison for someone curious how bass can be delivered by a headphone. If the only bass I’d ever heard was from a PS1000, I might not know about the alternatives. (and, for your point of no headphone being perfect, if the only midrange I heard was from an LCD2, I wouldn’t know about how a Grado can do it)

 

I mean, this comment about PS1000 bass isn’t new. you can go back to the first 20 pages of posts in this thread from 4 years ago and see comments from owners (yes, even after break in) that the PS1000 works best with an amp that can provide super tight control in the bass and have some mellowness up top. 

 

I’m just glad that with a tube change from the stock in the tubby Ear+, I get some of that tightness back in the bass without losing the lovely mids and smooth highs.

post #1076 of 1234
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Originally Posted by LCfiner View Post
 

Naturally, but I think it’s a useful point of comparison for someone curious how bass can be delivered by a headphone. If the only bass I’d ever heard was from a PS1000, I might not know about the alternatives. (and, for your point of no headphone being perfect, if the only midrange I heard was from an LCD2, I wouldn’t know about how a Grado can do it)

 

I mean, this comment about PS1000 bass isn’t new. you can go back to the first 20 pages of posts in this thread from 4 years ago and see comments from owners (yes, even after break in) that the PS1000 works best with an amp that can provide super tight control in the bass and have some mellowness up top. 

 

I’m just glad that with a tube change from the stock in the tubby Ear+, I get some of that tightness back in the bass without losing the lovely mids and smooth highs.

You seem defensive about your comments regarding PS1K bass.  Why?

 

I'm familar with Grado bass.  Don't have a problem.

 

I tried Audez'e.  No dice.  Oh yeah, great sub bass.

post #1077 of 1234

huh? no, I think you’re misreading or I wasn't being clear. I wasn’t sure exactly what you meant about Audeze not being perfect (since I hadn’t suggested that it was, it was just used as a comparison point to the PS1000 bass) so maybe I rambled a bit trying to respond to your post.

 

comments about older posts in the thread mentioning bass are, I suppose, aimed at other posters who may be surprised to read about the PS1000 bass response being different from other grados. 

post #1078 of 1234
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As you must know, nothing's perfect, not even Audez'e.

 

(Audezes are pretty damn close lol)

post #1079 of 1234
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As you must know, nothing's perfect, not even Audez'e.


and if you ever tell anyone i said it, i'll deny it, they might even have soul !! lol

post #1080 of 1234

I still remember the first time I heard the PS1000, I listened o my GS1000 for about one minute, and then switched to the PS, and the first thing that I noticed was that the PS were louder, second, was the deeper and slightly tighter bass, and third was the mids, wich were not recessed like the GS's, and also richer sounding, and last, but not least, I found that the PS  had a narrower soundstage than the GS. Keep in mind that my GS are the old, non ''i'' model. I also had the chance to compare the GS1000i, and found that they're sound signature was closer to that of the PS1000.

 

I think that Grados all have a certain ''je ne sais quois'' that other brands don't have. My guess as to why that is, is that they're tuned by hear. Now, the question is, are the PS1000 THE best sounding headphones on the planet....of course they are, well, for me they are.

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