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Just got the e-Q8 in. First thought: this sounds like an e-Q7 that passed through a correctional facility run by the ER4S. Objectivist brothers and sisters, rejoice! wink.gif  

Really? Very interested to hear more.
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Really? Very interested to hear more.

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Originally Posted by james444 View Post

Just got the e-Q8 in. First thought: this sounds like an e-Q7 that passed through a correctional facility run by the ER4S. Objectivist brothers and sisters, rejoice! wink.gif  

Do we know if this is another moving armature driver ? Or something different , from
Some pictures of it on the web, mostly Japanese sites it looks like the box says Balanced armature driver. From
Memory I think the eq5 and eq7 said the same on their packaging , and they turned out to be moving armature . I've tried googling but really there is not much info out there for the EQ8, unless you can read Japanese of course.
post #948 of 976
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I'm guessing it has smithing to do with the acoustic chamber on the eq5 .

 

I may be wrong, but I think the MA driver is self-contained.

 

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Originally Posted by youngsm10 View Post

Do we know if this is another moving armature driver ? Or something different , from
Some pictures of it on the web, mostly Japanese sites it looks like the box says Balanced armature driver. From
Memory I think the eq5 and eq7 said the same on their packaging , and they turned out to be moving armature . I've tried googling but really there is not much info out there for the EQ8, unless you can read Japanese of course.

 

The e-Q7 and e-Q8 look like twins, so it's safe to assume that it's another MA.

post #949 of 976
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Originally Posted by james444 View Post

I may be wrong, but I think the MA driver is self-contained.


The e-Q7 and e-Q8 look like twins, so it's safe to assume that it's another MA.


Yes, good point, it just looks slightly longer in the body on all the photos I've seen. Are they the same length as the EQ7?.

How are the mids , do you think they are as forward as the eq7, as I found them a touch fatiguing, and preferred the mids on the eq5?
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How are the mids , do you think they are as forward as the eq7, as I found them a touch fatiguing, and preferred the mids on the eq5?

 they have MORE fatiguing mids than the eq5 ? bummer- imo , the eq5 mids are already a tad too forward already

post #951 of 976
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 they have MORE fatiguing mids than the eq5 ? bummer- imo , the eq5 mids are already a tad too forward already



Yes the eq7 definitely have more forward mids than the eq5.

I was asking James how the eq8 mids compared to the eq5/7
post #952 of 976
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Really? Very interested to hear more.


 x2.

post #953 of 976
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Yes, good point, it just looks slightly longer in the body on all the photos I've seen. Are they the same length as the EQ7?.

How are the mids , do you think they are as forward as the eq7, as I found them a touch fatiguing, and preferred the mids on the eq5?

 

It's the exact same body as the e-Q7's. Actually, my first thought upon unpacking these was: "wait, they wouldn't dare to re-release the same phone just in a new color scheme?".

 

 

But in fact, the e-Q8's tuning feels like a more significant departure from the e-Q7's sound signature than the e-Q5's. And I wasn't joking when I said the ER4S seem to have had a hand in this.

 

Gone is the e-Q7's very slight mid-bass emphasis and midrange warmth, and the e-Q8's bass turns out extremely linear and non-emphasized. (I'd love to have those who think the JVC FX850 are balanced give the e-Q8 a listen and predict they'll call the Orto's bass entirely MIA). This low range linearity extends well into the midrange, but in the upper mids / lower treble things become very forward to my ears. Now, my Etys are on loan tour right now, but I believe that (from memory) the ER4S have a similar bump that makes female vocals sound really really close and intimate. Treble extension seems to be a significant step up from the e-Q7, though one should never trust an old fart like me when it comes to treble.

 

Overall I'd say the e-Q8's sound signature is somewhere in the vicinity of the ER4S and UERM, though the Ortofons sound probably even a tad leaner/thinner/sharper/more aggressively analytical than the those. Separation is excellent, but (like with the ER4S) soundstaging isn't quite up my alley. Granted, width isn't bad at all and they sound a good deal more out-of-head than the Etys, courtesy of a shallower fit. But that upper mid / lower treble bump kills any sense of distance and most of the layering for me, and everything in that range sounds simply very forward and in your face. (Disclaimer: individual HRTFs vary, and like with the ER4S, others may perceive things differently).

 

Bottom line: what a strange coincidence that Ortofon, Moller and Hammershoi all hail from the same country... ;) :ph34r: 

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The e-q8 is thinner sounding than the ER-4S or just the UERM? How about sub bass below 60hz?

The Ety peak is around 2 to 3k. Are you perceiving the e-q8 hump there or higher?
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The e-q8 is thinner sounding than the ER-4S or just the UERM? How about sub bass below 60hz?

The Ety peak is around 2 to 3k. Are you perceiving the e-q8 hump there or higher?

 

Vs. the UERM for sure. Can't say with certainty vs. the ER4S, since I don't have them here. Bass extension is comparable to the e-Q7, pretty good presence down to 30Hz, only little rumble at 20Hz.

 

I'd think the e-Q8 peak is around the same range.

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I'd think the e-Q8 peak is around the same range.

Is the treble smooth above that? If so, this reads well to me. I find the ety treble smoother (as in no peaks) and weightier than the uerm.
post #957 of 976
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Is the treble smooth above that? If so, this reads well to me. I find the ety treble smoother (as in no peaks) and weightier than the uerm.

 

I remember the Ety's highs as forward, but surprisingly benign, whereas the e-Q8's can be borderline sharp at times. That's what I meant with "more aggressively analytical".

post #958 of 976
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I remember the Ety's highs as forward, but surprisingly benign, whereas the e-Q8's can be borderline sharp at times. That's what I meant with "more aggressively analytical".

Hmm, that's a little worrisome. Thanks james444 for all the impressions.
post #959 of 976

^ You're welcome. Thought I'd start a new thread for e-Q8 impressions, to make them easier to find and avoid turning the e-Q5 thread into an e-Q8 thread:

 

Ortofon e-Q8 Impressions Thread (new 2014 successor of the e-Q7 / e-Q5)

post #960 of 976

I just order Ortofon e-Q5, i have one question, how high they can go, i mean can you hear 16 000 hz for example?

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