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Just Ordered the Phonak Audéo PFE Perfect Bass Earphones!

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I can't wait. This will be my FIRST serious iem purchase. The only other earphones i have are the Audio Technica CK7 canalphone, the Sennheiser PX100 and the Koss Portapro so i'm really looking forward to this Perfect Bass. I also ordered a set of extra green filters.

 

Should be here by the mid of next week. I'll let you know what I think of it.


Edited by Starsky5000 - 10/29/10 at 11:55am
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i kind of want a pair as well. let us know what you think of them.

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Just got PFBs myself. Overall warm clean sound, definitely less veiled and simply in another league than my Shure E3C. If not for the soundstage they could've even been on par with my UE 5Pros. But with green filters PFBs are a tad too biased and colored towards low spectrum for my tastes. So I ordered a set of black and gray filters to make it a little more balanced.

 

One thing to beware - Perfect Fit they are not, at least not in my case! None of the three supplied sleeves went deep enough into my ear channel to provide for secure fit and right seal both of which are critical to enjoy proper sound and not having things to fall off during jogging.

 

Problem is that by design of their prolongated shape Phonaks lay against your ear opening. Since supplied sleeves are short I can't jam them deeper as it was possible with my UE 5 Pros or Shure E3 which are basically small tubes without any "legs" that rest against ears. So I ordered Shure olives and tri-flanges to see if they will fair better.

 

These supposedly cheap cans are getting more and more expensive with all these ad-dons they require smily_headphones1.gif

 

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Now you got me worried. I hope I have  a good fit.

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Fit is really a very personal thing, just like sound signature. You won't know till you try it yourself - so no need to be extra worry than everything else.

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Now you got me worried. I hope I have  a good fit.


You need to stop worrying. I have yet to find an earphone talked around here that has 100% positive posts. That is something that just won't happen. I would just wait for it to come and then see if you like it or not.

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Would the Ultimate Ears Double Flange Tips fit the Phonak Audeo Perfect Bass nozzle?

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Problem is that by design of their prolongated shape Phonaks lay against your ear opening. Since supplied sleeves are short I can't jam them deeper as it was possible with my UE 5 Pros or Shure E3 which are basically small tubes without any "legs" that rest against ears. So I ordered Shure olives and tri-flanges to see if they will fair better.


To answer myself. Got both Shure Olives and tri-flanges. Latter need to be almost trimmed in half to become useful with Phonaks designs that forces shallow insertion but Olives are great. They give fit, isolation and comfort and resulting SQ I couldn't get with supplied and other types of sleeves on the Phonaks. One relatively negative aspect with Olives is like any other foams they tend to exaggerate bass and muffle some highs and what's worse upper mids. That still sounds not bad by any means and certainly is subjective. In my case I solved it by using grey filters which when combined with Olives sound magnificent to my ears. 

 

Again all my trouble with the fit is probably specific to the geometry of my ears and shouldn't affect anybody's decision.

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Would the Ultimate Ears Double Flange Tips fit the Phonak Audeo Perfect Bass nozzle?


Most definitely won't..

post #10 of 17
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Are the Shure Olives washable & reuseable? Also where online can i purchase them? Also what size should i get?

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Here's a source (often with the best price). Size is comparable to most silicone tips - if you take a medium single flange silicone, then a medium olive will be very similar.

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Man you gonna love those babies! I got my pair 3 weeks ago and i was wondering how much time i missed without them! I found my perfect seal with Complys. It was strange ti me because i always use silicon tips but this time foam won for me. I just ordered shure olives too because Complys are way too much expensive to keep buying.

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Are the Shure Olives washable & reuseable? Also where online can i purchase them? Also what size should i get?


Google is your friend. Official name to search is "Shure Black Foam Sleeves". I bought them from B&H. Only your ears know the right size. I got Medium and they fit right.

 

Here are Shure model numbers:

 

EABKF1-10S  (replaces PA910S) - 5 pair, small
EABKF1-10M  (replaces PA910M) - 5 pair, medium   
EABKF1-10L  (replaces PA910L) - 5 pair, large

 

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Man you gonna love those babies! I got my pair 3 weeks ago and i was wondering how much time i missed without them! I found my perfect seal with Complys. It was strange ti me because i always use silicon tips but this time foam won for me. I just ordered shure olives too because Complys are way too much expensive to keep buying.

 

I received them yesterday and love them to death. In fact its the BEST earphone i've ever purchased. I love the outstanding clarity and precision; natural, dynamic mids and treble, and deep bass. These things are great like you said.

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Are the Shure Olives washable & reuseable? Also where online can i purchase them? Also what size should i get?

Yes, they are. My first pair of olive date back to 2008 and it is still in good condition as I clean it regularly. Mid size is what most people use, unless you have very small ear. As far as I know only one person uses a large size, and they are like twice as big as the mid size. Unless you have giant's ear, avoid getting the large.

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