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http://www.head-fi.org/forum/thread/476089/head-fi-and-hdtracks-david-chesky-collaborate-to-assemble-a-headphone-system-test-album
 

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I've seen a mention of this CD before.  How do you get a copy?
 

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Eric. I would love to hear your comparisons to some of the universals you have, or had. I think our taste in sound are about the same based on some of your reviews and impressions. I would most like a comparison between these and the Panasonics. I love the fun bass hump of the Panasonics, but have some minor issues with the mids and highs. I didn't have any issues with the Panasonics mids and highs until I got the DBA-02's. Damn this hobby.

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Okay, I got them! lol.. But haven't opened the package yet. Will have them in my ears in about 20 minutes.

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Using some of my test songs on my ipods. So far so good. Strings are wonderful. Bass and drums are fantastic. Haven't found the mids very recessed, maybe just a tad bit compared to the SM3, but I wasn't expecting that. I was told by 1964ears that would be part of their signature. The treble is about how I like it. Like project86 earlier, the highs are there but are smoothed out some. Back to the bass, to my ears it doesn't drown out the other sound spectrums, but it's there and you feel it as jermng said earlier. If you love bass and drums, these won't disappoint. Vocals are nice. Nice clarity. As those of you who know me are aware, I believe in burn-in - even for armatures. So I don't think the quads are at its best yet, but I'm not disappointed at all.

 

I need to keep listening though. The workmanship and quality is of the highest caliber!! The fit is perfect for my ears. No space whatsoever. A very snug and tight fit. More initial impressions to come later.

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Good to know. I like your technical approach on the case. And yeah, the bump is more extended as you said. 

 

Does the bump feel unnatural or does it take you closer to a live performance?
 

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The 50Hz bump has a pretty wide Q (bandwidth) so it affects frequencies all the way up to slightly beyond 250Hz. The noticeable boost (to me) in most music is around the ~80-125Hz region where kick drums sound bigger. Listening to a "live" album by Israel & New Breed, the bass player sustains a note on his Low B string and I could actually "feel" the note resonating - in this case it gives a very nice texture to the music. 

 

After further listening (just a couple of hours), I'd say the bass bump pretty much adds "fun" to the sound of the Quads. It is NOT overwhelming like on the Ultrasone Pro 900s (albeit being on-ear headphones), I couldn't bear listening to even pop songs on the 900s cos the bass & low-mids were overwhelming (before burn-in & partial Kees mod).

 

I've made other observations on the sound but at this point want to give the brand new IEMs a little more burn in time to see if things change. I will just say that what I hear corresponds very closely to the published frequency response chart and overall leans on the darker side sonically. 

 

I've emailed Vitaliy of 1964 ears & Ericp10 just to see if what I hear tally with their impressions. I'm sure ericp10 will post here really really soon too :)

 

As you might notice, my impressions & review come more from a musician/sound engineer perspective than a typical "audiophile's" so hopefully they would be of some help to those still deciding. 

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FYI.. I don't know if both bass drivers are (I would imagine it is the case), but one bass BA driver is definitely a Sonion 2015, which I understand is suppose to be quite excellent for lows output. I can't see what the mids and high drivers are.

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@RipNBurn, Thanks!

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Sounds good. Thanks for the impressions, everyone. I liked  the bass hump of the JH16s much better than the flatter 5s, so it looks like I would like these. The music just came alive in the 16s in a way it didn't in the 5s, and it didn't have anything to do with the detail difference that I am sure is there. The music was so much more exciting and real, rather than boring. Of course, there is nothing wrong with "flat" bass, if you prefer it. 

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@Eric: how much bass would you say the quads have? I think you have a pretty good idea of my signature. Would you think they would be for me or not? I think something about the HJE900 amount would be something I would want.

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Glad to hear that you received them eric!

Keep the reviews coming guys.

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Thanks of the impressions, I think it's sealing the deal that I'm going to go for the T as my first step into the customs world.  The FR graph makes it look like the bass is plentiful but not overwhelming.  The Q sound great, but I'm not a big fan of a mid bass hump (part of the reason I prefer the original O2 vs the Mk2 version).  The build quality and what came in the packages sounds great.  I don't need all that extra and the cases and foam look better than what you get with JHAudio.

 

Thanks for the impressions, ericp and jermng!  Jermng I look forward to your wife's impressions of the T.

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@Eric: how much bass would you say the quads have? I think you have a pretty good idea of my signature. Would you think they would be for me or not? I think something about the HJE900 amount would be something I would want.



Hello rawrster,

 

The quads have more bass than the HJE900, definitely. But it's at such a higher quality in clarity and detail that it is hard to compare. It These are a bass and drums focused IEM, but it blends in nicely with the mids and treble. But these can go sub-bass without any problem. It's almost if the Monsters had gobs of clarity and detail to go along with the quantity. To be fair, I really need more time with them, but those are initial impressions my friend. I can't even begin to compare them fairly to the SM3 and other universals I have (had), but will try to do some over the next couple of days. Oh, there is more bass than the SM3, I can say that for certain (and the SM3 doesn't slack on bass).

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I fully expect the quads to have better resolution, detail and texture than the HJE900 but I was speaking more about quantity and impact of the bass. I wouldn't expect you to fully know the sound of them an hour after putting them in your ears as your first custom but I think these will not be for me. I don't want much more bass than what the HJE900 did for me. I do want something different than my Livewires but not something that deviates too far from my preferred signature as I can't have the same mentality like I did with the HJE900. It was an enjoyable earphone but not for me and I bought it with the intention to sell later which will not apply with customs.

 

Just out of curiosity but do you get any kind of rumble from the sub bass? It's not that important to me but I get a bit of it when I use my Livewires so just wondering about that. I think I'll be doing the same as Region2 and getting the triple driver instead of the quads. The quads sounds like a custom made for your tastes.

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eric-

Congrats on jumping to the customs world. Glad you're finding even the initial few minutes' worth of listening to be highly satisfying. How's the transition to customs, and getting used to that particular feel in the ears? My wife's aunt is an audiologist, so I was thinking that could be the perfect excuse to get into customs myself! I'm considering JH16's though..... 

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With my limited listening, and based on what I think I know about your favorite sound signature @ rawrster, yes I would have to agree that the quads would probably be a bit too much for you in bass and not to your liking. Don't get me wrong, the bass doesn't drown out the mids or treble at all (was just listening to the Miles Davis "So What" in lossless and there was beautiful and clear separation of instruments), but the bass is definitely there and powerful. I don't think I've heard any music yet to test sub-bass rumble in the 1964ears. I'll let you know though.

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I fully expect the quads to have better resolution, detail and texture than the HJE900 but I was speaking more about quantity and impact of the bass. I wouldn't expect you to fully know the sound of them an hour after putting them in your ears as your first custom but I think these will not be for me. I don't want much more bass than what the HJE900 did for me. I do want something different than my Livewires but not something that deviates too far from my preferred signature as I can't have the same mentality like I did with the HJE900. It was an enjoyable earphone but not for me and I bought it with the intention to sell later which will not apply with customs.

 

Just out of curiosity but do you get any kind of rumble from the sub bass? It's not that important to me but I get a bit of it when I use my Livewires so just wondering about that. I think I'll be doing the same as Region2 and getting the triple driver instead of the quads. The quads sounds like a custom made for your tastes.

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Hello @ Chris buddy!! Thanks man. Yes the customs world is a different and interesting one indeed. As for transition, I was more apprehensive than I needed to be. For the office environment (and if you can afford to shut out the rest of the world for awhile) the customs are wonderful. Especially if you have them made with a good fit and seal. Once in your ears, the feel is great. I haven't felt any discomfort and doesn't feel like it's in too deep as for example those triple tips would feel when I tried to use them on universals. Those became quite uncomfortable. The tricky part with the customs is getting use to putting them in. I had no problem, but you have to kind of twist them in to lock in place. That can be a bit uncomfortable until you get use to it with practice. Once locked in place, no discomfort at all for me. The most uncomfortable part in the whole process is the actual getting impressions done. It wasn't as bad as I had imagined, but a bit uncomfortable with them sticking the foam (others used cottom) ear protectors down your ear to prevent the silicon from getting in too far, and then the filling your ear up with the silicon. I had to hold my mouth open for about 10 minutes on my own - about two inches - since my audiologist didn't have mouth blocks. That is about I can think of. These will be the ultimate isolation, especially once the music is on. I see I can play these as loud as the universal, as it will be too much for my ear. Enough details come through at lower volumes. As I have read that the JH16s has a lot of bass, I think I wouldn't get them since the 1964 suffice, but I might be interested in a more neutral or less bass IEM such as the ES5, or perhaps even the 1964 triple. This custom, anyway, is better than the SM3 to my ears, even with limited listening. How much better? That I will have to ascertain with more listening.
 

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eric-

Congrats on jumping to the customs world. Glad you're finding even the initial few minutes' worth of listening to be highly satisfying. How's the transition to customs, and getting used to that particular feel in the ears? My wife's aunt is an audiologist, so I was thinking that could be the perfect excuse to get into customs myself! I'm considering JH16's though..... 

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