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Westone 3 Vs Triple Fi 10

post #1 of 33
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Well I just received my Westone 3 headphones as 'upgrades' to my Triple Fi 10s which had a faulty cable.

Finally I am in a position to offer my own opinion on the quality because I can compare them. Excuse my unprofessional rant and strange descriptions and terminology - I am a layman, but here is what I hear.

I am trumped by all the hype on Westone 3.

In my opinion there is no contest. UE Triple Fi 10 beats it hands down.

The soundstage on the Triple Fi 10 is MUCH bigger. It was so noticable when I put my Westone 3s in that the sound was much more enclosed. A feeling like the little drivers were all squashed in together and all real close to your ear, and all competing to be heard. it sounds like they are having a fight to get noticed and they lose their clarity in the process. Its like listening to the music in a broom cupboard on the westone 3, but with the TF10's its a full sized and carefully arranged studio. The sense of spacial positions of instrumentation is significantly lost.

In contrast the Triple Fi 10 is open and delivers all the layers of sound in a record seemlessly. It's like the sound is coming from speakers that are way off my ear, not all crammed in together right next to my ear.....and I can attend to each instrument so much more easily. There is clarity with each track/instrument which is clearly individual, and each can hold my attention in its own right as the piece moves on. It remains separate and I can listen to it like that -  only attending to one voice.

Dance music great.

In the Westone 3 the midrange is more prominent than on the Triple Fi 10, but aside from comparing with the TF10, as itself, the westone's mids seem to be more prominent than the tweeter and bass so there just is something distinctly lacking.

I am listening to Eat Statics new album. On the Triple Fi 10 the drums, and electronic rhythm effects are dancing over the top and stand out clearly in their own right without interfering with the rest of the track. I just cannot put into words how mush better these sound.

When I first got my Triple Fi 10s I was majorly disappointed with the fit, but with comply tips I get a good seal, the earbuds actually stay in my ear, the sound is second to none. I can imagine why this would make people inclined to rate them low in a review, - if they don't force themselves to get used to fitting them they will miss out on a cracking headphone. The fit is a big 'fail' in many people's eyes, but I am starting to wonder if it was a necessary evil in order to create the openness of the sound, and the sheer size of the soundstage that the brilliant TF10 demonstrates.

 

Without question, the biggest mistake I made was swapping them for the Westone 3. The only thing these phones have going for them is 1, the cable, which is twisted like twine for capacitance and is also therefore very strong and durable i think and 2, the comfort. - you can wear these babies with your head on the pillow. It is kind of important that phones are comfy, but having heard the difference in quality in the audio between these two, it is absolutely worthwhile persevering with a slightly more fiddly fitting and the need to avoid putting your head on its side while wearing them if you are rewarded with such superior sound.

There is more balance and there is not overkill or equalization to accentuate any part of the TF10's sound, It is natural and you hear what the producer produced.

Every frequency of sound, irrespective of the type of sound (high-hat or bass synth? matters not!) out of the triple Fi 10 seems to have more 'body'. It is better supported, warmer, and more spacious. In fact, what its sounds like to me, is the westones are a loud sony minidisk midi system, in an earphone. They have some decent volume, but they sound like they are not grown up enough yet The Triple Fi 10s are more like my hi-fi when I was a student. Just pure sex at the time!! (Marantz CD on Eltax speakers through my Cambridge amp.), again, in an earphone!

Its just soooo much more sophisticated I am still struggling to see how people are able to compare them. - all I can say is the fit, look and feel of the Westone 3 must have taken it a LOOOONG way on the road to success and acceptance in this community.

Conversely, the awkward and fiddly fit, the weight, and protruding body of the TF10s must have been equally damaging and very effective in contributing to any negative sentiments which seemed to gather momentum in opposing them.

My next mission, is to somehow convince iheadphones.co.uk that I don't want the Westone 3's, and get them to retrieve my TF10s and send them back to me. Perhaps I can sweeten them with the request that they order me the null audio cable to mend my TF10s (which are IN warranty) myself. Anyone who has tried communicating anything other than a sales order to them will appreciate how difficult this task is. smily_headphones1.gif

post #2 of 33

Hi thewiggler

 

 

I have the same opinion as you. I bought the Westone 3 thinking it would be the best sound in the world, and found a IEM that produced a substantial midbass hump. This extra bass set up a mild resonance with some recordings, obscuring some of the music and overall harsha and fatiguing sound, it just doesn't sound right!! I sold my Westone 3 and bought a Triple.fi 10 PRO,  the first time I tested the Triple I've noticed how better it was compared with the W3, much more refined sound. For my ears the Westone 3 is a design error.

post #3 of 33

I disagree.  The TFPro 10 has a major flaw in that it has a "veiled" midrange.  Very foggy. 

 

Great bass, great treble, great soundstage but a flawed midrange not to mention it is the worst ergonomics of any IEM ever made.

post #4 of 33
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Originally Posted by Spyro View Post

I disagree.  The TFPro 10 has a major flaw in that it has a "veiled" midrange.  Very foggy. 

 

Great bass, great treble, great soundstage but a flawed midrange not to mention it is the worst ergonomics of any IEM ever made.


 

I agree with you about "Great bass, great treble, great soundstage", I know the midrange could be better, and the Westone 3 ergonomics is much better than the Triples... But I dont have ergonomic problems with my Triple.fi. I just did not like the W3 AT ALL. But I know that a lot of people love it. Yesterday I bought a Westone UM3X, I will get it in +- 5 days. Hope I'll like the UM3X.

post #5 of 33

Having had both at the same time, it was easy to part with the TF10.  The ergonomics, or lack there of, coupled with what I heard as a tinny high end, recessed mid range and overall cold sound just did not agree with me, AT ALL. The Westone 3 is definitely tip and fit dependent and may not agree with everyone, but for my money and more importantly my ears, they don't hold a candle to my Westones.  Your mileage may vary.

post #6 of 33

Due to the weakness of the Triple.Fi 10s mids, they moved down a notch in my ranking, with the UM3Xs edging them out.  The Triple.Fi 10s are great in many respects, but the W3 and UM3X beat them out for a wider range of music IMO.  Take some time to get used to the W3 sound signature and see if it grows on you.

post #7 of 33

I love both the TF10 and the Westone 3 , both have great sound signatures however both are very tip and fit dependent ,with the wrong tips and fit both can sound very bad. The TF10 dose have a recessed midrange with comply tips but with silicon tips it really opens up and is a joy to listen too.

 

The w3 can have a lot of sibilance with the wrong tips, i hated it for about six months when i first got it but now it is my second favorate iem.,i used two monster hybrid foam tips on a comply core to overcome the sibilance and these tips also balanced out the sound to my ears .

 

The w3 does has the better ergonomics however i find the Tf10 very comfortable to wear .

post #8 of 33

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Originally Posted by Spyro View Post

I disagree.  The TFPro 10 has a major flaw in that it has a "veiled" midrange.  Very foggy. 

 

Great bass, great treble, great soundstage but a flawed midrange not to mention it is the worst ergonomics of any IEM ever made.



I do not own both phones anymore but I cannot characterize the TF10s as having a "veiled" midrange. To me if the TF10 erred, it was that its midrange seemed slightly off in tone and a tad recessed but nowhere to the degree that they've been castigated in these forums. In fact, I'd be more inclined to say that the W3 is the more flawed IEM with Its blatant midbass hump and overly strident treble that made some tracks a sibilant fest. Now, I did not entirely dislike the W3 but my views of both these phones more concurs with that of thewiggler and I too found the W3 to be a hyped product.


Edited by HONEYBOY - 11/1/10 at 7:07am
post #9 of 33

All I know is, with either the Shure Olives or even the Comply's, I've heard no sibilance from the W3's.  For those that still have the W3's that haven't tried them, give them a try.  I think you'll be quite impressed.

post #10 of 33
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Originally Posted by JoeyRusso View Post

All I know is, with either the Shure Olives or even the Comply's, I've heard no sibilance from the W3's.  For those that still have the W3's that haven't tried them, give them a try.  I think you'll be quite impressed.


 

Hi JoeyRusso,

 

I did not tryed the Shure Olives, but for me the Comply's veiled the soud =/ The best tip that worked for me was this mod. I took this picture when I had the W3.

 

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Rodrigo Pita

post #11 of 33
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Hi JoeyRusso,

 

I did not tryed the Shure Olives, but for me the Comply's veiled the soud =/ The best tip that worked for me was this mod. I took this picture when I had the W3.

 

DSC08683.JPG

 

Rodrigo Pita



Are those the standard Westone clear/white tips?  I might give that a shot, I have a few de-cored olives I can use inside them.  Thanks for the tip. (pun intended) 

post #12 of 33

Yep, those are the standard Westone clear/white tips with a Comply T-400 Black Medium inside of it!   =)

post #13 of 33

My two cents...

 

I owned both UE10s and W3s and like both...but no doubt in my mind the W3s were the better IEM. I found the ergonomics of the UE10s simply PAINFUL. They literally hurt to have them in for more than 20 minutes (regardless of tips). The bass was quite nice, but the mids muddy and the treble bright (tin like).

 

The Westone 3s have more impactful (though slightly more woolly bass), the mids are not muddy and the treble; while sparkly, not tin like. I sold the UE10s after only 2 months or so...and kept the Westone 3 for almost 2 years. The SE535s have made both obsolete to my ears.

post #14 of 33
Now have both ... need time to decide what I prefer.
post #15 of 33

Glad i found this thread been thinking about getting some westone 3's for a while, i have the triple.fi's and can get a good seal with the silicon tips i havnt found the mids to be noticably recessed and find them excellent for just about all types of music (my ie8's have been gathering dust for some time). One of my favourite things about the triple.fi's is they sing when you crank to volume right up. Still undecided about the westone 3's might wait to see what people think of the westone 4's when they become more availaible.

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