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post #106 of 2814
Originally Posted by BoyNamedSue View Post

Would the re-terminating cable procedure be easy enough for someone like me with zero soldering experience?

 

Be REALLY SURE that headphone cable you are going to re-terminate has FOUR wires and not three.

 

Otherwise you might be sorry.

post #107 of 2814

Point taken. From what I read though, it seems like my Denon D7000s have the four wires. Please correct me if they don't!

 

edit: Just a few posts down, Tim mentions that the audio-gd balanced cable mod example is done with the d5000s so my guess is that it'll work with the 7000s =).


Edited by BoyNamedSue - 11/8/10 at 9:34am
post #108 of 2814
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Originally Posted by hardtarget666 View Post

Does anyone think that NFB-10 and Little Dot Dac_1 + MKVII+ Amp combo are comparable in performance? They both are around the same price range.



No one?? Not even an educated guess?  I am about to pull the trigger on the NFB-10 and I just need the comfort of knowing I can't do any better at this price range!!

post #109 of 2814
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Originally Posted by hardtarget666 View Post





No one?? Not even an educated guess?  I am about to pull the trigger on the NFB-10 and I just need the comfort of knowing I can't do any better at this price range!!



As for the amplifier part, no idea how they compare... 

 

The DAC part is easier to compare though. Little Dot DAC-1 runs a cheap budget Wolfson WM8740, compared to the dual top of the WM8741 or ESS Sabre32 in the NFB-10. There´s no comparison really, the Audio-gd is in a very different league here when it comes to chipset specs. But of course the actual DAC chip isn´t the only thing that affects sound quality, but it´s a very, very important one and personally I think it´s reason enough to go for the NFB-10 instead.

 

In my personal opinion the NFB-10 and NFB-11 are the best value in headphone audio right now, but we all have our own views smily_headphones1.gif


Edited by vrln - 11/8/10 at 2:16pm
post #110 of 2814

any pics of this dac?

post #111 of 2814
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Originally Posted by BoyNamedSue View Post

Point taken. From what I read though, it seems like my Denon D7000s have the four wires. Please correct me if they don't!

 

edit: Just a few posts down, Tim mentions that the audio-gd balanced cable mod example is done with the d5000s so my guess is that it'll work with the 7000s =).


Both your HD600 and the D7000 stock cables have 4 wires and can reterminated with the 4 pin XLR that Kingwa sells. I have done both myself.

post #112 of 2814

Tim, what is your price for re-terminating my Denons for me!? I am half joking but half serious =). Chicagoland isn't too far from me, and I'll actually be there this weekend to attend ChiUniFi.

post #113 of 2814
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Originally Posted by hardtarget666 View Post





No one?? Not even an educated guess?  I am about to pull the trigger on the NFB-10 and I just need the comfort of knowing I can't do any better at this price range!!


I GUESS that NFB-10 is a better choice, because LD DAC-1 is just an entry level balanced-DAC solution. And it SEEMS that NFB-10 can be a decent DAC when working with other amp.

post #114 of 2814
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Originally Posted by melancholic View Post

I GUESS that NFB-10 is a better choice, because LD DAC-1 is just an entry level balanced-DAC solution. And it SEEMS that NFB-10 can be a decent DAC when working with other amp.

 

Nicely nuanced!

I TEND to agree with you

When looking at the DAC components and its implementation the NFB-10 is likely to sound better.
 

post #115 of 2814

Thanks guys! That was unanimous and make my choice easier. Now...which one should I go for, Sabre or Wolfson........sigh...life is never easy

post #116 of 2814

I had to make the same decision and went the Wolfson line 

 

My choice was influenced by the fact, that I think/hope NFB-10WM is a bit more forgiving on "non-perfect" CD's, so with 99% and the other 1% I don't own them...  it should be a little warmer than the sabre, according to Kingwa. On the other side I was tempted to buy the StageDac by Jan Meyer (I own the concerto) which uses also WM8741, but NFB10 is also balanced and I think at the moment you cannot find another fully balanced Dac (+ HPA) with the Wolfsons...

 

But Sabre will not be a bad choice if you prefer more Jazz or classical music... I suppose... my taste tends towards pop/rock/heavy/prog... but I can only hope for myself having made the right choice. So good luck 

 

Cheers,

 

Dan

post #117 of 2814

In theory at least: Sabre is less source-dependant and sounds hardcore analytical. The dual Wolfson configuration is configured to be warmer and more forgiving of badly recorded albums in Audio-gd products, but many have noted it requires a good transport. Unfortunately the whole warm vs. analytical debate is very subjective, we all have different preferences. 

post #118 of 2814
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Originally Posted by vrln View Post

In theory at least: Sabre is less source-dependant and sounds hardcore analytical. The dual Wolfson configuration is configured to be warmer and more forgiving of badly recorded albums in Audio-gd products, but many have noted it requires a good transport. Unfortunately the whole warm vs. analytical debate is very subjective, we all have different preferences. 

 

I've read a lot about the Sabre being less source dependent. But where does it leave the dual Wolfson config when you have top-notch source?
 

post #119 of 2814

Well, I will be using the HD650's with it and hopefully the LCD-2 in the near future. My only experience with a dac was with the Audinst MX-1 and I loved its neutral sound. Based on that I am leaning towards the Sabre. Please correct me if I'm wrong but looking at other threads, it appears the NFB-7 which is based on Sabre, is in the same ball park as the Ref 5/7 series dacs.

 

Danutz, when are you expecting yours? It would be good to know your experience with it. 

post #120 of 2814

Hi,

Don't know when I will get it, ordered a few days ago... hopefully a few will be sent tomorrow 10th Nov...., but I am in Europe, so this can take 1-2weeks or so...

 

Kingwa wrote me, that NFB1 would be slightly better than NFB10ES, I would say due to the powersection, so NFB7 should be another/further step in that direction... But what I guess, why is there no NFB7WM (yet)... perhaps the Wolfson cannot benefit from an powersection-upgrade, so that NFB10WM would be top-league, for less money... who knows 

 

Only time will tell 

 

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