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post #61 of 2067

 

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Those who believe that electricity does not alter the things it passes through have obviously never been struck by lightening.


Very witty comment. Well played.

post #62 of 2067

The whole "tube amps are no good for Ultrasones" seems like nonsense. I was just reading impressions here on head-fi from owners of the Ray Samuels B-52 tube amp who rave about how nice they make the Edition 9s sound.

post #63 of 2067

I know, in theory, tube amps should make any headphones sound 'better', except for the purist.
 

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The whole "tube amps are no good for Ultrasones" seems like nonsense. I was just reading impressions here on head-fi from owners of the Ray Samuels B-52 tube amp who rave about how nice they make the Edition 9s sound.

post #64 of 2067

 

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I know, in theory, tube amps should make any headphones sound 'better', except for the purist.
 



I think it largely depends on a) the tube amp and b) user preference.

 

Some tube amps are designed to be best paired with high impedance headphones. Since Ultrasones are relatively low impedance, they wouldn't fare well on those particular tube amps I'm guessing. But then, amps like the B-52 can handle just about anything you throw at them, so I can't see Ultrasones in particular sounding bad on something like the B-52 which supports a wide range of impedances.

 

Then again, some people just dislike the tube amp sound altogether.


Edited by MuppetFace - 10/21/10 at 2:06pm
post #65 of 2067
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Originally Posted by Danz03 View Post

Another question is, why are tube amps not good for Ultrasone headphones? From my understanding, tube amps are colored but they smoothen the high frequencies and give a warmer sound which is quite pleasant to listen to in general, so unless someone wants to keep his headphone sounding completely accurate, why would tube amps sound bad with Ultrasone's, as they are not meant to be the most accurate phones anyway? Or unless they have already got a warm sound signature and using tube would be an overkill?

I don't mean to offend anyone, I'm just a bit confused.


I'd ignore the generalisations about tube amps.  Maybe they apply for cheaper tube amps, but it's possible to make tube or solid state amps sound any way you want.  It really has more to do with how people are influenced by changes in the frequency response of gear. This contrasting the idea of buying better gear for its lower distortion.

post #66 of 2067
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As for headphones degrading with use, like I said, I'm just really paranoid. I've convinced myself that with all the special membranes and fibers being used in headphones, they're going to degrade with each use even if it's microscopic.


Considering I've seen Stax's original electrostatic headphone model go up for sale, I'm really not worried about my O2 Mk1s noticeably degrading any time soon. With speakers it was always the foam driver surrounds that would fall apart, but modern composite drivers and surrounds should last for a very long time. Stax is likely to have something better (they may already have if that really is the "O3" that's been teased) long before my headphones are likely to die of old age.

post #67 of 2067

I would add that certain headphones could be like fine wines, meats and cheeses, where they actually improve with age if they are well cared for 


Edited by grokit - 10/22/10 at 2:51am
post #68 of 2067

Many new posts but not really about the impression of this headphone. 

(read until i fell asleep)

post #69 of 2067

that´s because there isn´t many more then thinker that got it wink.gif

post #70 of 2067

 

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that´s because there isn´t many more then thinker that got it wink.gif


Yup. Ultrasone USA hasn't even gotten anything yet as of yesterday.

post #71 of 2067

Hate to be a buzzkill, but all of this discussion on burn in theory belongs in the sound science forum not here in the ED10 impressions thread, so I'm going to do a little clean up.

 

Let Ultrasone's statement stand on its own.  Manufacturer's recommendation.  'Nuff said.

 

post #72 of 2067

"FACESLAP"

 

I wish that there was an option to check all new posts except "Sound Science"

post #73 of 2067
So from now on all posts about burn in belong in the science forum?
post #74 of 2067

So are all other forums besides sound science to be empirical evidence free?

post #75 of 2067

This is a listening impression type thread. Not a "demand proof for offtopic subjects" thread.

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